Why are there soooo many Bernie Sanders threads ATM?

originally posted by: LeatherNLace
You don't recall the flood of Ron Paul material about 4 years ago?

Or Obama or Palin in 2008 and Obama in 2012?

originally posted by: Flatfish
I just wanted to highlight the fact that Bernie is doing the same things and standing up for the same principles that he always has since "day one" in his political career.

That is one of the most attractive aspects of the man... Well, that and his hair.

Whatever he's been up against, he doesn't sway with popular opinion. He's a rock.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
if we could get Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders as the final two , we would actually have a REAL election

We might actually have a real shot at turning the country around no matter which way it went

Agreed! That would be the best match-up!

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Bone75

Hey I think Bernie is the only actual Viable candidate the Democrats have....


HIllary is a stage 12 disaster area........no one wants her, not even her own party.........

if we could get Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders as the final two , we would actually have a REAL election

We might actually have a real shot at turning the country around no matter which way it went

But at least both men have strong principles that seem to be non establishment on both sides of their isles.......

one can only wish

Maybe we can send them on a whacky adventure like in the movie "My Fellow Americans", and they can become friends, put aside their differences and join together at the end to run together for the good of the country.

Question is who's vice and who's president

President Camacho 2016



"He's not the President America needs, he's the President America deserves"

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Puppylove

Oh, he's authentic. He wants to take all your money to redistribute as government sees fit.

I have yet to figure out why so many people are in love with this concept unless they think it will only apply to the "evil rich" and not to them, but a 90% tax rate is a 90% tax rate.

I don't know about them, but I cannot survive if I suddenly lose the remaining 60% of the income I am left after taxes every year. I will go bankrupt. And I do not want to apply to the government for their "generous" programs to survive. I've seen the endless rounds of certification paperwork and inspections I would have to submit myself to in order to qualify. They meddle. I don't want them to meddle in my life anymore than they already do.

Not to mention, I work hard to keep them out of my life as much as possible. Bernie will be working to make them my hand-holding partners in life.

For some reason, people want this.

Now, if you want this, I wish there was a way you could have it without forcing me to have to ride right along with you.

I can see why Bernie Upsets You!

a reply to: Vasa Croe

To be honest i think the only people that can be that easily swayed will be democrats, its a toss up between killary or bernie (the guy who thinks women enjoy being raped) you certainly wont get any republicans voting for him so really its apples and pears.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Puppylove


I have yet to figure out why so many people are in love with this concept unless they think it will only apply to the "evil rich" and not to them, but a 90% tax rate is a 90% tax rate.

I don't know about them, but I cannot survive if I suddenly lose the remaining 60% of the income I am left after taxes every year. I will go bankrupt. And I do not want to apply to the government for their "generous" programs to survive. I've seen the endless rounds of certification paperwork and inspections I would have to submit myself to in order to qualify. They meddle. I don't want them to meddle in my life anymore than they already do.

Where did you get you will be taxed 90%??????????????????

Honestly with a chance Hilary may become president, is it any wonder there are so many Bernie threads!

I wonder why there are so many threads questioning other threads and accusing people of being shills. Could the people questioning threads, secretly be the shills, looking to shine a bad light on other threads. Or am I just being silly.

originally posted by: kellyjay
you certainly wont get any republicans voting for him so really its apples and pears.

Republicans for Bernie
More Republicans for Bernie
Why Would a Republican Support Bernie???

I lurked on reddit for a few months, reading r/politics regularly, and was amazed by Bernie Sander's policies. Everything he did was for the American worker, from protecting them from outsourcing and cheap foreign labor, to fixing the budget deficit by hiking taxes on the rich, to boosting the minimum wage. He'd be considered a centrist back in the 80s, which is why he has my vote.

Just sayin'...

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

There is such a thing as a republican socialist an a conservative socialist, so ill hazzard a guess that it would be those "types" kissing bernies ring...rather than your "mainstream "bush" conservative.

www.google.co.uk... cansocialists.org.uk%2F&ei=51C-VcPqF-GR7AbXwI2gCg&usg=AFQjCNHy4TvxkNowTPAyfCckRKEa4hwgeg&sig2=nUo4I0o1VYnjMOTHhGV32g&bvm=bv.99261572,d.ZGU

jus sayin....

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Yes, I used a text acronym, ATM, in my thread title.

Anywho....why are there so many Bernie Sanders threads on ATS right now? I don't recall ever seeing a heavy political push on ATS, but the Sanders threads have me wondering...

Are there, possibly, true disinformation specialists that flood sites, like ATS, to brainwash the theorists into believing a certain politician is the one to back?

Tinfoil hat is in fill force tonight....odd happenings...

This is what a real grassroots campaign looks like. You ask a question by adding another Sanders thread. If you look in the election 2016 forum Bernie and Trump threads dominate, they are the candidates within the two parties that have momentum currently.

Not that hard to figure out really

originally posted by: ketsuko


NO Answer? I'll take it your lambasting is just you fear mongering then....

It's easy ...

1. Go to any web search engine.

2. Type in "Bernie Sanders, 90% tax rate"

3. View results

thinkprogress.org...

Just so you don't think it's all "right wing scare mongering."

Now, since I'm sure you'll tell me I'm not rich, what does Bernie intend to do to keep the wealthy here to have their wealth confiscated? Build a wall like the Soviets to keep them in? Or when the wealthy cut and run like any self-respecting person does when facing confiscatory policy, does he keep redefining "wealth" until he is punishing those of us who cannot afford to cut and run?

Bernie is the latest in government individuals running for president who people hope will save them, from. . um. . . . government individuals.

a reply to: ketsuko

Thanks for the link. Here are some interesting quotes from it:

Sanders is right that the top marginal tax rate, that paid by the wealthiest Americans, was around 90 percent under Eisenhower — it was actually 92 percent in the 1950s. Today, the top marginal tax rate is 39.6 percent, although the richest 1 percent end up paying less than that on average and the average rate actually fell for many years.

Republicans have consistently claimed that higher tax rates on the wealthy will hold back economic growth, while lowering rates further will spur it forward.
But that’s not likely the case. Last year, economists found that the point at which the top tax rate is high enough to maximize government revenues but not so high that it discourages the rich from trying to earn more is quite high: about 95 percent for the 1 percent. History bears that out. Economists have pointed out that post-war American growth has been higher during periods with much higher top marginal tax rates and lower when tax rates were substantially lower. When the top rate was more than 90 percent in the 50s, economic growth averaged more than 4 percent a year. But recently when the top rate has been closer to 35 percent, growth has been less than 2 percent a year on average.

A 90 percent top tax rate could achieve that goal. The same economists who found that the rich can swallow a 95 percent rate also found that a 90 percent tax rate for the 1 percent could significantly reduce the Gini index, a measure of income inequality. It would also help lower wealth inequality. Meanwhile, everyone’s wellbeing would improve, rich and poor alike.

originally posted by: beezzer
Bernie is the latest in government individuals running for president who people hope will save them, from. . um. . . . government individuals.

This is kind of my thoughts. He is an "Independant" (in quotes). Because he caucases with the DNC, allies with the DNC, and asks permission to stray from the DNC on procedural matters.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I happen to like Sanders. Not his policies, but his sincerity.

I just don't see anyone changing course on this bus trip off a cliff.

a reply to: beezzer

i like his policies more than anything, honestly. Its his affiliations that have me suspicious.

If this were 1985, he would fit in fine with the GOP. Its that the GOP has moved to far to the right as a party that they have no real base anymore. If they don't find a way back to center...its going to be a long winter for them.

a reply to: introvert

Do you know what the world was like during Eisenhower's day?

The US was the ONLY country in the world with an intact industrial base. It was the springboard from which everywhere else was being rebuilt or was building itself.

You can get away with that kind of tax policy when there is no where else to go.

Additionally, there was no confiscatory tax policy on capital investment (that means capital gains were allowed - what Warren Buffet constantly carps about), so the wealthy could safely reinvest their wealth which did help this country, but keep in mind there was:

a.) Nowhere else to invest in,
b.) Much less regulatory inhibition on investment (remember the flaming river of the '70s ... Love Canal? what do you think led to that?)
c.) We also had a much stronger sense of patriotic pride in the US ... That's not considered healthy or good today.
d.) We also had a MUCH stronger dollar as there were very few other strong economies