MoD 'covered up pictures that PROVE UFOs exist'

That's the claim of UFO investigator Nick Pope which will feature tonight in the UK's Conspiracy: The Alien Files on channel 5 , the claim isn't new but for anyone interested this is a heads up on the case and tonight's show.

In August 1990, two hikers were walking in the Scottish Highlands, close to Calvine, north of Pitlochry, when the incredible aircraft appeared hovering over the remote landscape.
For about ten minutes they watched and took six colour photographs, before it sped off into the distance.
The pair said during the incident, a number of military jets were seen making a series of low-level passes.
At least one of the jets was also caught by them on camera.

Mr Pope and Channel 5 have reconstructed the image for a detailed report of the alleged cover up which will be broadcast on Friday.
The men, whose identities are no longer known, allegedly took the camera to the Scottish Daily Record Newspaper, who in turn allegedly sent the pictures and the negatives to the MoD.

Bellow is the Channel 5 recreation of the best picture the MoD held made with help from Nick Pope.

In July 1996 Don Valley MP Martin Redmond, tried to get answers through a parliamentary question on the missing pictures.

The MoD said: “A number of negatives associated with the sighting were examined by staff responsible for air defence matters. Since it was judged they contained nothing of defence significance the negatives were not retained and we have no record of any photographs having been taken from them.”

But strangely in late 1991/92 officials asked for detailed line drawings of the unidentified object to be produced, which were released with the files.
www.express.co.uk...

It will be interesting to see if they looked for or found any of the reporters from the Scottish Daily Record who had possession of the pictures before they were sent to the MoD and if so what memories they have of the pictures.

It's curious to see how some of the older UFO pics appear to me at least, an older model UFO. Incidently, this photo seems very fitting of a newer model UFO yet not quite as modern as those infamous triangles. Funny that. Seems as though them there aliens go through a similar R&D timeline as we simple terrestrials on this here rock. As above, so below......right? Nudge, nudge. Right?

Thanks for sharing.

Fake picture, no photos, and the two hikers are "unknown."


Right....


Harte

a reply to: Harte

The picture is a reconstruction of the original , not sure that makes it fake.
The MoD admit they received the negatives which they examined , so they did (perhaps still do) exist , for the Mod to say they had no defense significance indicates the object was either known to them , blimp or other aircraft maybe or it's that standard response to something they want to keep quiet , I suspect the former but the latter is also a possibility.

Oh look.... the picture that hung on Mr Pope's wall?
Suddenly re-imagined for a documentary!

Rendelsham and Subs with Triangles last week .....maybe we'll get some hitherto unreleased info on Cash Landrum next week if we're lucky?

a reply to: gortex
By definition if it's not real it's fake.
All I can say if it's channel 5 it will be budget and latch onto the more senial cases.

Although it can't be worse than channel 4s abduction documentary where the criteria for an interview was you need to be substance abuser.
The ones broadcasted in England tend to be p#ss takes.

I'm calling BS on this too. Its 1996 and these guys don't know to hold on to evidence. The fact every source can no longer be contacted is the kicker. its the same old story. Like The MOD is gonna save pictures like that. They shouldn't even have given the negatives. Makes complete sense for a hoax

a reply to: Jukiodone

Rendelsham and Subs with Triangles last week .....maybe we'll get some hitherto unreleased info on Cash Landrum next week if we're lucky?

It's a UFO forum , what do you expect ?

a reply to: rossacus

By definition if it's not real it's fake.

By definition it's a reconstruction.

a reply to: gortex

Thanks for the heads up Gortex

a reply to: rossacus

There was the version of a black diamond that looked like it had been photocopied doing the rounds before this.

The reconstruction could easily be of someones recollection of a pic of an F-117 banking or even some sort of Hopeless Diamond type derivative they were testing.

The Harrier escort sort of gives away identity if a real photo exists.

Edit@ Gortex:
yeah I was just pointing out that the recent revelations all tie in nicely with the Astr0 narrative- not commenting on your content.
In fact I wasn't aware it was on and I will watch tonight.

So they had a few negatives that were deemed insignificant and discarded, with no photos ever being made from them, then they had someone(s) draw what was on the negatives from memory, then they used those drawings to come up with this "reconstructed" image...Is that about the gist of it?

On a credibility scale from 1 to 10, I'd say this rates about a -6.

a reply to: Jukiodone

No problem , I misunderstood your meaning.

The reconstruction could easily be of someones recollection of a pic of an F-117 banking

That thought had entered my mind , perhaps the object in the reconstruction is closer than the object in the original photo.

Thanks for the heads up dude.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

So they had a few negatives that were deemed insignificant and discarded, with no photos ever being made from them, then they had someone(s) draw what was on the negatives from memory, then they used those drawings to come up with this "reconstructed" image...Is that about the gist of it?

This is where reading the linked source would help straiten out your confusion.

Mr Pope, who investigated sightings for the MoD until 2009, said a blow up of the best shot had pride of place on a wall in the department, and later went behind his desk as his rank grew.

He said visitors would come into the section, see it, and ask what it was taken

On a credibility scale from 1 to 10, I'd say this rates about a -6.

On a scale of 1 to 10 that's impossible.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

So they had a few negatives that were deemed insignificant and discarded, with no photos ever being made from them, then they had someone(s) draw what was on the negatives from memory, then they used those drawings to come up with this "reconstructed" image...Is that about the gist of it?

This is where reading the linked source would help straiten out your confusion.

Mr Pope, who investigated sightings for the MoD until 2009, said a blow up of the best shot had pride of place on a wall in the department, and later went behind his desk as his rank grew.

He said visitors would come into the section, see it, and ask what it was taken

I did read the source, and I still find the details to be quite sketchy. Though it is almost 5am, and I haven't slept yet, so that may just be me being tired.

Anyhoo....This is the "blown up" image that Pope had:

And this is the "reconstructed" image:

The basic outlines of the 'objects' are similar, but that's about it. If the new image was supposed to be an accurate reconstruction, they did a lousy job.

a reply to: gortex
So we are agreed that a reconstruction isn't real.

The similarity to the F-117 is obvious to me. Today we have seen tons of pictures, but in April 1990 it was shown (completly) publically. Two Scottish hikers not familiar with planes? What would they have thought?

By Chance: Did anybody write down the dates when the F-117 left the US desert to head to Iraq? The F-177 is quiet slow and it could appear as "hovering" from a distance. It would also be kind of logic that "standard" planes clear the route in forein airspace, because other civilian planes can't see them. This was practise in the US before with A-7 and T-38 night guards.

And the max air speed of the Harrier fits also for the F-117... would you send it for a real UFO?

We don't need proof of UFO's, because they're real, labeled as real, classified as real. What we don't know is if any of the UFO sightings were Extraterrestrial in origin. And to find evidence of that, would it be worth yours and your family's life?

I believe the implications are so severe, we will only ever find out if they make their presence known to all of us. Yet the mindset of humans would probably think they're here to invade us.

I see no light at the end of Ufology's tunnel for the foreseeable future until that day finally comes...

a reply to: gortex

Strange other papers are reporting this because of the TV program yet the Daily Record is saying nothing it seems, now if they had a story like that they would report it .

Also the area this is reported to have happened in has the A9 running through it, the main road to the highlands and Inverness a road I have been on many times yet there seems to be no other reports this event from anyone else.

The RAF do flying exercises on a regular basis and driving along that road I have had a few close encounters but only with military jets.

thanks for the heads up.....