George Takei: Clarence Thomas is a "Clown in Blackface"

originally posted by: beezzer
Just thought I'd share a quote from a man I greatly admire.


If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labeled a radical 60 years ago, a liberal 30 years ago and a racist today.

-Thomas Sowell

Nothing like a country of 300 million people all doing as they damn well please.

Because, you know, it's all about me.

Let's celebrate the new world of freedom.

a reply to: Annee

Ill just leave this here.........

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: beezzer
Just thought I'd share a quote from a man I greatly admire.


If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labeled a radical 60 years ago, a liberal 30 years ago and a racist today.

-Thomas Sowell

Nothing like a country of 300 million people all doing as they damn well please.

Because, you know, it's all about me.

Let's celebrate the new world of freedom.

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

a reply to: grandmakdw

What if Shatner had used the exact same phrase about Obama and then proceeded to give all the reasons he said it.

Doesn't apply. Funny - Shatner the best you could come up with? :-)

What Clarence said was not only a slap in the face to all those that suffered as slaves, or in internments camps - it goes to the heart of this decision by SCOTUS

Human dignity cannot be taken away by the government. Slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved. Those held in internment camps did not lose their dignity because the government confined them. And those denied governmental benefits certainly do not lose their dignity because the government denies them those benefits. The government cannot bestow dignity, and it cannot take it away.

Emphasis mine. Clarence is saying that the decision was wrong because the federal government has no business deciding who should be allowed to live as fully free and equal human beings in our country. Society should be the only ones that can to do that. He must think that his job is completely unnecessary :-)

He wants to treat dignity as something much more like the idea of a soul

What he really means is that the SCOTUS is in the business of deciding whether or not this is constitutional - as if the constitution has nothing to do with freedom, dignity - or respect

Our gay citizens have no business trying to have their dignity decided legally - they should just shut up and have it quietly inside themselves - it's not a Federal issue

I can't believe Thomas actually took the time to write that drivel

I am shocked at all the people who excuse Takai for his statement simply because they agree with his politics and fail to see the ugly racism in the words simply because they dislike Clarence Thomas.

He said something that depends on race to make his point - what he called out is a lack of solidarity. Since he's actually defending the honor of slaves - it is racist - but not in the way you'd like for it to be. Black face is a touchy subject - as is calling someone an Uncle Tom. But, since I can see you don't understand what George is saying - I can understand why it makes you so angry

Takei was taking up the cause for oppressed people of all kinds

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: grandmakdw

You are the one who implied that the opinion of one person was indicative of an entire race.

That's known as tokenism, for example "some of my best friends are Black, I can't be racist."

I didn't call Justice Thomas a token; again, you like to lie and put words into people's mouths.

Ah, the "liberal left" screams racism at the drop of a hat, but what you and your other conservative compatriots have done in this entire thread is to take a term that is commonly used, by many (not just one person) in the Black community, and hoist that up to claim that all liberals are racist because of what one person (Takei) said.

You just can't help turning everything into a partisan issue, I realize this.

But in general, you're utterly incorrect. As in this case.

I don't know what you are talking about "one person"
or to whom you are referring.
I could only infer from your remark that you were
referring to Justice Thomas.

I am not saying all liberals are racist,
liberals as a rule are very much against racism -

I am saying that denying what Takai said is racist
by the liberals who have so vehemently defended
calling a prominent black man a "clown in blackface"

is hypocritical of liberals who
are so anxious and excited to find
racism in situations where it does not exist:
as in Michelle calling the short woman an extreme racist
for asking her to help get something off a shelf in target,
when the woman was short and Michelle tall.

I am saying that the liberals who defended Takai
are hypocrites,
not all liberals,
just the ones who found an extremely racist statement
acceptable, not just acceptable, but praiseworthy,
when said to a conservative they do not like.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

I guess that you missed that that video was already posted in this thread, here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

And commented on here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Well, THAT was a worthless bunch of hyperbolic ignorant rambling! That young women completely missed the whole point that Clarence Thomas was making, switched the topic from stolen dignity to reprodictive rights and abortion, gay marriage and the supposed stereotype that liberals think that "blacks" can't think for themselves.

Too bad that young woman can't think for herself!

And here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

We all have opinions, you may have noticed, as well as First Amendment freedoms.

It's telling though, that you think that by finding a Black American who disagrees with Takei, you've proven something about all Black Americans.

I see you still believe in the concept of "tokenism."

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

What Clarence said was not only a slap in the face to all those that suffered as slaves, or in internments camps - it goes to the heart of this decision by SCOTUS

So a black man has to fall in line with what you and other "liberals" believe or hes considered an Uncle Tom or in Black face......

Just like the video above states, its nice to know that white liberals have a monopoly on how black people have to think....

How dare the only black man in that position have the gal to have an opinion! .....that means hes not really black! Uncle TOM! BLACK FACE!

You tell me who the real racists are

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

So a black man has to fall in line with what you and other "liberals" believe or hes considered an Uncle Tom or in Black face......

Why don't you go back and read what I just said?

Assuming you won't do that...and you won't then try to understand what I was saying - I'll just go ahead and confirm your half baked assumption: Yes - Clarence Thomas has to agree with everything I say - or I will call him names

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

So a black man has to fall in line with what you and other "liberals" believe or hes considered an Uncle Tom or in Black face......

Why don't you go back and read what I just said?

Assuming you won't do that...and you won't then try to understand what I was saying - I'll just go ahead and confirm your half baked assumption: Yes - Clarence Thomas has to agree with everything I say - or I will call him names

Got to give it you for for honesty.

You said: "Clarence Thomas has to agree with everything I say - or I will call him names."


Implying that you have no problem calling him
racist names or with anyone else calling him racist names?
That appears to be the implication of your statement.

Therefore, it appears by what you have said that
you think it is perfectly acceptable to be
racist, bigoted, intolerant of and judgmental
of those who do not agree with everything you say.

Got to hand you one for bald faced honesty.

Of course, that removes you from being able to
call anyone else's comments racist, intolerant, or bigoted
or judgmental if they say ugly things about
people who disagree with them,
If you agree with the target of the racist rant.
Because that would be hypocritical.

To be consistent and totally honest,
you must allow everyone to say racist and intolerant
things about people you like, if the person saying it
disagrees with the people.

Go for it! As long as you are consistent,
I can respect that stance, not agree, but will respect consistency.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: windword
I wonder how dignified Uncle Clarence Thomas would feel if the Supreme Court hadn't ruled the way it did in 1968 in Loving Vs Virginia, that allowed for mixed race marriages? I wonder how Clarence and his wife, Virginia (VIRGINIA), a white woman, would have held onto their dignity if they were denied a marriage license?

Not the first time he's been called an "Uncle Tom" by the oh, so tolerant left--won't be the last. The hypocrisy of the racist left knows no boundrues. I recall the first African American Secretary of State a "House Nigger." Disgusting.

Oh the complexities of American BS politics. Like the other side calling Noam Chomsky a "self hating Jew" because he doesn't lock step with the right.

a reply to: intrepid

As a rule, the American Jewish vote favors Democrats.

J Street National Post - Election Survey

a reply to: grandmakdw

Right ... I refer specifically the young lady in your video ... and you can't imagine that I'm talking about anyone other than Justice Thomas ... sure, that makes sense.

Perhaps you should review what is meant by racist and racism. If Takei had said something like "Well, I guess we can't really expect much better out of a Black man." in referring to Justice Thomas, why then, you might have a point. Racism arises when speaking against someone or something BECAUSE of their race ... Takei's comment is individual to Thomas ... as has been pointed out multiple times. Perhaps Takei did insult the Justice, and perhaps, since Thomas is such a conservative darling, I'm sure it did hurt your feelings on his behalf ... but what Takei said was simply not racist.

You forget that you and others here insult "prominent Black men" all the time ... but there's something different about Thomas, eh? Did you mention "hypocrisy"?

As to the rest ... you over-generalize about liberals all the time. You're partisan making partisan comments.

a reply to: grandmakdw

Sarcasm and irony are just totally lost on you, aren't they!? WAY over your head.


FFS

oh....wait.....*finger to ear* *crackle* This just in:

nono!! It's deliberate obtuseness. Pathetically obtuse rantings. Kneejerk reactivity. That's how it looks to me anyway - but what do I know....??

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

So a black man has to fall in line with what you and other "liberals" believe or hes considered an Uncle Tom or in Black face......

So a black president has to fall in line with what you and other "conservatives" believe or he's considered a Muslim Communist.....




Right?

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Obama?

Oh I just think he's a clown.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Obama?

Oh I just think he's a clown.

See, you think you've made a really subtle joke here. All you've done is proven if Takei is "racist" ... then so are you.

So which is it?

a reply to: grandmakdw

You said: "Clarence Thomas has to agree with everything I say - or I will call him names."

I said that because ManBehindTheMask didn't understand (or didn't want to understand) what I was saying

To be consistent and totally honest, you must allow everyone to say racist and intolerant things about people you like, if the person saying it disagrees with the people.

Since you didn't bother to read what I said (or even try to understand it), then went on to make a bunch of assumptions and accusations because you were apparently born without the ability to recognize humor, I'll just say this:

Knock yourself out grams

This is what you had in mind all along - your pretentious attempts to defend the honor of Clarence Thomas ain't foolin' nobody

I wonder why you chose to misinterpret my response to ManBehindTheMask instead of responding to the reply I made directly to you?

I wonder if you have anything to say about that?

:-)

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: NavyDoc

Yep, and the matter was later addressed under that socialist democrat progressive Jimmy Carfter, and apologized for, and redressed. Not to mention that the bulk of the reparations were paid under that socialist republican progressive Ronald Reagan.

Conclusion, similar to the logic used, all Republicans are in favor of paying reparations to those our Government has wronged.

You mean living people whom we actually harmed in a concrete and definite manner or long dead people of a now defunct and defeated country?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: beezzer
Just thought I'd share a quote from a man I greatly admire.


If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labeled a radical 60 years ago, a liberal 30 years ago and a racist today.

-Thomas Sowell

Nothing like a country of 300 million people all doing as they damn well please.

Here, here--er...except for baking cakes when they don't want to or making flower arrangements for an event they don't like or any number of things you think the federal government should mandate under penalty of law.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

So a black man has to fall in line with what you and other "liberals" believe or hes considered an Uncle Tom or in Black face......

So a black president has to fall in line with what you and other "conservatives" believe or he's considered a Muslim Communist.....




Right?

It's damned shame that we still have to preface the term "president" with "black".