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Our eyes act like the slits in Young’s experiment, they are the openings through which the wave form of light decoheres into particle expression, and then hit the rods and cones in our retinas to cause a firing of a signal along the optic nerve to the brain. This occurs prior to our conscious experience of light. Only when the signal from the optic nerve is transposed and processed in the brain does a conscious experience of light arise. This natural and inbuilt latency negates the idea and belief that consciousness itself plays any part in wave function breakdown, or that consciousness creates our reality. Consciousness is a phenomenon after the event that raises it. It is not prior nor simultaneous to the event that brings it into being.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrderIt seems to me it's really just a avenue for arguing that God exists because they can prove consciousness existed before anything else, so the mind of god could have existed before everything else.
originally posted by: elysiumfire
Quanta seem to exist in two distinct separate expressions of reality simultaneously, but no one has observed this yet. Whenever an observation to determine this is carried out a quantum always presents itself to the observer either as a particle or as a waveform, never both at the same time.
Many clever measurement experiments have been set up and made to try to observe this seemingly dual nature in the same instance of measurement, but due to space-time differentiation, the observations cannot reconcile into a singular observation. Even when we set up an experiment that is able to take two measurements at ‘A’ and at ‘B’ simultaneously, where at measurement ‘A’ we observe a quanta's particle expression, and at ‘B’ we observe a quanta's wave form expression, we are still making two distinct and disparate measurements that cannot resolve into a single observable of wave/particle duality.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
a reply to: elysiumfire
Our eyes act like the slits in Young’s experiment, they are the openings through which the wave form of light decoheres into particle expression, and then hit the rods and cones in our retinas to cause a firing of a signal along the optic nerve to the brain. This occurs prior to our conscious experience of light. Only when the signal from the optic nerve is transposed and processed in the brain does a conscious experience of light arise. This natural and inbuilt latency negates the idea and belief that consciousness itself plays any part in wave function breakdown, or that consciousness creates our reality. Consciousness is a phenomenon after the event that raises it. It is not prior nor simultaneous to the event that brings it into being.
Nice explanation. Obviously the photons must be interacting with the rods and cones at the back of our eye before we even become aware of them, which shows the wave-function can collapse before consciousness actually plays any role in the observation. It is also very easy to prove measurements can be made by non-conscious machines with eraser variants of the double slit experiment.
The only alternative to this is that we project reality from our mind and see what we expect to see, instead of reality being injected into our mind from the outside world. This would imply we are living in some sort of shared delusion or that I'm the only truly conscious being and everyone else in my reality are just philosophical zombies projected out of my own mind.
Even if other people exist and we are sharing some sort of dreamed up reality, that still cannot really explain the very consistent nature of reality. For example why can two people on the opposite sides of the world discover the same planet independently and only later corroborate their findings? Or why do the laws of physics always work the same even if I don't know how they work?
These people pushing the idea they we create our own reality constantly ignore this simple logic and act as if their ideas are backed up by science, which I find highly annoying. It seems to me it's really just an avenue for arguing that God exists because they can claim consciousness existed before anything else, so the mind of god could have existed before everything else.
This natural and inbuilt latency negates the idea and belief that consciousness itself plays any part in wave function breakdown, or that consciousness creates our reality.
But the duality has been recorded, at least, seemingly, according to this recent experiment?
I'm beginning to feel that the long, long drought in theoretical physics may be about to end.
The course and outcome of any investigation must always begin with the right question
Our eyes act like the slits in Young’s experiment, they are the openings through which the wave form of light decoheres into particle expression, and then hit the rods and cones in our retinas to cause a firing of a signal along the optic nerve to the brain. This occurs prior to our conscious experience of light. Only when the signal from the optic nerve is transposed and processed in the brain does a conscious experience of light arise. This natural and inbuilt latency negates the idea and belief that consciousness itself plays any part in wave function breakdown, or that consciousness creates our reality. Consciousness is a phenomenon after the event that raises it. It is not prior nor simultaneous to the event that brings it into being.
Where's the scientific experiment that says our eyes act like slits and they're openings through which the waveform decoheres into particle expression?
What exactly do you mean by wave function breakdown??
You try to claim consciousness can't be this or can't do that but you don't know what consciousness is.
Also, when it comes to Theoretical Physics we can get technical. I think I asked you a question in another thread you never answered.
What is the difference between conformal field theories and quantum field theories that make it symmetric and mathematically give rise to a thermodynamic critical point and how is this derived? How does this relate to this thread in light of recent discoveries about the entropy of entanglement and the equivalence between these energy densities and gravitational theories?
How do you come up with the 10/500 false vacua? Is that the number and there's hundred of cycles in the homology for each topology so how are the the differences between the cosmological constant derived and what are some of the specific negative values and how does that relate to this thread?