Assad’s Forces May Be Aiding New ISIS Surge

a reply to: AVoiceOfReason

Please show me an example of the rebels with air capabilities.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Only if you show me an example of even a single person confirming without a doubt that assads forces were using chemical weapons.

a reply to: Xcathdra

I'm going to bed. Heres a goodnight kiss from me to you.



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a reply to: AVoiceOfReason

Didn't bother to read the UN reports did you. If you showed more of an effort you might actually learn something.

It seems Assad is the Messiah here at ATS, he could never be the bad guy here, no it's impossible because he's fighting against the US, so by default, he's the good guy.

His sins are coming out in the wash more and more as this war continues.

HWR -
Syria: New Chemical Attacks in Idlib Security Council Should Urgently Determine Responsibility

(New York) – The Syrian government renewed its use of apparent toxic chemicals in several barrel bomb attacks in Idlib governorate in April and May 2015. Human Rights Watch interviewed local doctors and first aid responders to the sites of three attacks and analyzed photographs and videos of weapon remnants. The attacks were in violation of the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention, the laws of armed conflict, and a 2015 United Nations Security Council resolution.

The ongoing use of toxic chemicals in attacks gives greater urgency to tentative Security Council negotiations to create a mechanism to determine responsibility for the use of such illegal weapons. The Security Council is meeting on June 3 for its regular monthly briefing on chemical weapons in Syria.

“While Security Council members deliberate over next steps at a snail’s pace, toxic chemicals are raining down on civilians in Syria,” said Philippe Bolopion, UN and crisis advocacy director. “The Security Council should firmly establish responsibility and impose sanctions for these attacks, which defy its resolution and violate international law.”

Human Rights Watch conducted inquiries into three separate attacks in May in Idlib governorate, through interviews with three rescue workers who responded to the attacks, one of whom was affected by exposure to toxic chemicals, and two doctors who treated victims. Experts also reviewed photographic and video evidence. Two of the attacks took place just hours apart on May 2 in the nearby towns of Neirab and Saraqib, and the third on May 7 in the village of Kafr Batikh. The three attacks killed two people and affected 127 others, according to information collected by doctors who treated victims.

Human Rights Watch was not able to conclusively determine the toxic chemicals used in the three attacks. However the distinctive chlorine smell reported by rescue workers and doctors from attacks over the past two months, and the Syrian government’s previous use of chlorine, indicate this chemical was used in some if not all of the attacks.

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So. leaked documents show the US colluding to train and arm ISIS, then all of a sudden, it gets turned around and it's Assad aiding the ISIS terrorists against his own people.

I wonder what coke addled brain at the State Department thought that one up?

a reply to: Britguy

There were no leaked papers saying the US trained ISIS.

There have been Syrian government defectors stating that Assad has deliberately not bombed ISIS bases, there have been ISIS defectors saying that they knew they could sleep well at night knowing that they wouldn't get attacked by Assad's forces.

a reply to: Chadwickus

The US has been supporting the "rebels" since day one. Whether you want to split hairs and say they were not ISIS at that time is irrelevent, as they are now. The whole mess in Syria was another US concoction, along with Israel and their proxies in Jordan, Turkey and Qatar. Plenty of reports of this around spanning the whole of the war so far, just not usually found anywhere in the MSM, which likes to parrot only the government sources and shady "exiled" Syrians with a axe to grind.

Now i do not know what kind of man Assad really is but as much i know about the whole situation going on for decade and more, i have my doubts about these news, are they trying to tell us now that Assad is and so may have all along worked with the ISIS faction?? Before this there was allot of accusations of USA working with ISIS and many rather suspicious happenings between the two yet now it start to turn out that Assad was and is working with ISIS, to what end, destroy Syrian government and slaughter the ppl? Sry but i aint buying this shyt, to me it may more likely be some sort of new false flag event, perhaps to get go sign for bombing Syrian government and its ppl...

a reply to: romilo

Assad is busy bombing his own people...

False flag? doubtful since there is plenty of justification to intervene in Syria yet the west has not.
Syria protecting ISIS? Plausible.

a reply to: Britguy

I think you've buried your head too far into the conspiracy sand.

Let's list the players in Syria...off the top of my head..

Assad government forces.
The FSA- Free Syrian Army
Al Nusra
ISIS
US coalition forces

The FSA are the "moderates", they are the ones being helped by the west, they are the ones John Mcain was photographed with. Al Nusra are affiliated with Al Qaeda. ISIS used to be Al Qaeda in Iraq or AQI, they branched off and became ISIS.

There will of course be some people from the FSA who crossed over to join ISIS, much like others have left ISIS and joined Al Nusra or the FSA.

The FSA, Al Nusra and ISIS all want a piece of Assad, for various reasons depending on who you ask and whatnot, but it has been well documented that Assad has turned a blind eye when it comes to ISIS, as he felt they were of use to him keeping the FSA occupied.

It's complicated.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: romilo

Assad is busy bombing his own people...

False flag? doubtful since there is plenty of justification to intervene in Syria yet the west has not.
Syria protecting ISIS? Plausible.

Yes last time i read how USA was at their beach ready to strike evil Assad away, they suddenly back off from it, if they were so justified how come they backed off to shadows like guilty party? Yet it was peace of cake when the same thing happened to Iraqi, Libya and where else already?

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: romilo

Assad is busy bombing his own people...

False flag? doubtful since there is plenty of justification to intervene in Syria yet the west has not.
Syria protecting ISIS? Plausible.

Most of the "rebels" we armed and supported / still support are not even Syrian. Just as those we armed and supported in Libya were not Libyan, and look what a great place it is since we bombed the crap out of the place! Another western created hellhole.

a reply to: romilo

No, he hasn't worked all along with ISIS.

He thought he could control them, use them to a. destroy and distract the FSA and b. create sympathy towards his regime...as in "its ISIS or us".

a reply to: Britguy

Assad forces are doing most of the bombing.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Britguy

Assad forces are doing most of the bombing.

Correct, against those who have destroyed the country and wish to overthrow the government. The same ones we ourselves have been arming, funding and training either directly or through proxies in the region.

Our own governments have been up to their eyeballs in this from the outset, hoping their "rebel" army would pull another Libya, but it's not working out so far, unless the idea is the partition of Syria and Iraq, in which case it's all going nicely.
If there really were a case for us fighting ISIS - presented as the most evil and heinous group since AQ went out of fashion - then we could have done so many times over. but that would help Assad, and we can't be doing that as we want him removed.

Bottom line is, our own governments have shown over and over again, they don't care one little bit for all the innocent lives taken. They are just collateral damage and a source of heartrending images and newspaper pieces to try and get support for more bombing, bloodshed and deploying our own troops there.

Who has a recent picture of mad-dog Assad? - killer dictators love pics to be distributed of themselves dictating.

Where is Assad getting all the money for this ongoing (for a few years now) terror campaign against Syrian women and children.....and men?

Where is he getting the money?

The money - where is it coming from?

Standing-by on pics and $$$$ source.

syria, iran and russia have a strategic coalition yet iran and russia remain pretty silent considering their ally gets torn into pieces right now.
i wonder why.

a reply to: romilo

Are you saying the west should have attacked?