Freddie Gray's Death Ruled a Homicide; 6 Officers Charged!

a reply to: UnBreakable

I don't know. Perhaps someone could ask...And while they're at it perhaps they could ask the police union about any and all political contributions they've made. Let's bring all conflicts of interest to light.

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: UnBreakable

Been waiting for someone to bring that up. Star.
Yes, corruption in progressive Baltimore is rampant. Notice what good friends Sharpton and the Mayor have become?

Apparently there is a conflict.

"According to Ryan, Mosby has several personal and professional conflicts due to a relationship with Gray family attorney William Murphy and connections with members of the local media. He also notes that her husband, Nick Mosby, is a city councilman."
wiat.com...

in the same article, Ryan ( head of the police union) said this........All death is tragic. And death associated with interaction with police is both shocking and frightening to the public,” Ryan said. “Not one of the officers involved in this tragic situation left home in the morning with the anticipation that someone with whom they interacted would not go home that night. As tragic as this situation is, none of the officers involved are responsible for the death of Mr. Gray. To the contrary, at all times, each of the officers diligently balanced their obligations to protect Mr. Gray and discharge their duties to protect the public.”

"NONE OF THE OFFICERS INVOLVED ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OF MR. GRAY".........yeah right, it was a suicide(rolls eyes)

a reply to: curiousme333

Just wanted to point out the FACT that if Freddy had not ran,,,,none of this would have happened

I don't see how that statement can be true. If he stood there, got frisked, and police found the legal knife, they may well have done the same. Rational and ehtical thinking by police seems to have gone out the window.

"Freddie Gray's Death Ruled a Homicide; 6 Officers Charged!"

GOOD!

a reply to: jimmyx

Again, as I stated in my earlier replies, I think the indictments are definitely justified, and the cops should be fully prosecuted. I just think it's shady the ties between the DA and the Gray family attorney.

originally posted by: retiredTxn
a reply to: IAMTAT

Although some may be upset, she had no choice but to pursue charges in this matter. This may be the one incident out of many that will bring about some much needed change.

She also pointed out this was not an indictment of all police officers, but of those who abuse their power and position.

Is anyone else concerned what this will mean for the future of law enforcement ? It's hard enough to find good cops now, but if these types of cases become the norm, what young guy with a bright mind would ever want to go into this field. Which means police forces will be forced to hire recruits with more questionable qualifications than they do now. I hate to think how that will work out.

a reply to: roadgravel

What I was saying is that if he would not have attracted attention to himself, there is a good chance that the police would not have interacted with him at all. By running you immediately are determined to want to hide something.

originally posted by: SyxPak
a reply to: RickyD

Let's hope this does indeed set a precedence for future, and current or past police brutality!

Well what I was talking about has nothing to do with police brutality, more so the fact cops use that excuse to arrest, search, or otherwise detain people on pure speculation of why they ran away. The fact they charged officers with false imprisonment, which is a felony, makes a big statement as far as things go in the legal world. Lawyers use judges decisions in past cases to show precedent for current cases. This is how cases are built and defended. See what I mean by possible major implications should they be found guilty?

originally posted by: caladonea
a reply to: IAMTAT

I think that there is definitely going to be more major civil unrest...charging the Police in question with homicide is not going to calm down many; they will get more upset and act out their anger...and I think this is going to happen across the United States.

I know...I know...to many I am stating the obvious...but I just felt a need to say it.

You're absolutely correct, it will be a long summer of endless protests. Actually, I think its being incited by the Feds in a play to put all policing departments under Federal supervision. That will insure that retribution can occur against the evil forces who have exploited and ruined Black lives for the last 200 years. No one fought this hard for equality. This is about domination and pay back!

a reply to: windword

Opinions are like..well...you know.

Fear of the police is something that is perpetuated by the media and eaten up by folks such as you. Again, I want to know where the guy is he was with. Cops are allowed to walk up to anyone and ask a question just like you or me. I can walk up to anyone and say hi..or look at them. If I looked at someone and they ran I would think they were hiding something cop or not.

You also know nothing about me. I was a victim of police brutality and had my jaw and nose broken. Their excuse was I am 6' 3 230 and was deemed a threat in the situation. The situation..I called them because my girlfriend at the time tried to OD after she found out her brother died. I called 911 and was pepper sprayed and had my as kicked.

Years later, do I tell my kids cops are bad, no, but they know that there are bad cops..and bad doctors..and teachers...and coaches. It is not about respect as much as following the law.

If you run from a cop in a crime and drug riddled hood it is not profiling...it is suspicious. If you cannot see that you are deluded.

Where is the outrage for the kids who die in the crossfire from jerk offs like this who do deal drugs and shoot each other? Where are the attorneys then...or the media...if these folks would stop burning cop cars and beating up drug dealers maybe Baltimore would be a better place. But no, they need the drug dealers so when they steal the 40's from the local CVS they can do some big ass bong tokes back home...

School is out in one month...

a reply to: UnBreakable

If every elected official was disqualified from voting or working on issues that affect people who donated to their campaign, all our elected officials would be impudent.

a reply to: curiousme333

I imagine that got their attention but running is not against the law. Otherwise jail would be full of joggers.

If he ran after being asked to talk to police then it is the usual police tactic that he fell for.

originally posted by: Okeyd57

originally posted by: retiredTxn
a reply to: IAMTAT

Although some may be upset, she had no choice but to pursue charges in this matter. This may be the one incident out of many that will bring about some much needed change.

She also pointed out this was not an indictment of all police officers, but of those who abuse their power and position.

Is anyone else concerned what this will mean for the future of law enforcement ? It's hard enough to find good cops now, but if these types of cases become the norm, what young guy with a bright mind would ever want to go into this field. Which means police forces will be forced to hire recruits with more questionable qualifications than they do now. I hate to think how that will work out.

Exactly. Honest people will fill these positions less and less and it'll attract just more of the types that they're railing against. Pretty soon policing will be farmed out under contract to Blackwater.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Anyone else feel this is all being done to ease Baltimore tension rather than seek justice?
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To the contrary; I think it is being done to increase the tensions all around the country. Like with the Rodney King trial where the officers were acquitted I believe they're looking for a repeat performance. Build expectations for justice being served only to have them smashed dramatically during a very hot spell in the summer when things are already boiling.

That's how the psychos in power push and pull society in to doing what they want. I doubt they will be able to get any kind of conviction since there is only circumstantial evidence and a pre-existing medical condition that would make further injury very easy during a typical arrest. Add the likelihood of police officers testifying against each other and the chances are about nil.

The big build up for the even bigger let down.
Then watch the fireworks and see the genda for federalizing the police further advanced.

a reply to: matafuchs

Whoa, take it easy partner!

What are you going on about? The post you replied was to nothing more than me posting a video of the press conference, for you viewing pleasure, because it seemed to me, by your questions, that you hadn't seen it. It's a powerfully convincing indictment, in my opinion.

originally posted by: roadgravel
Why should the cops get a special prosecutor? They can enjoy the same system they worked under and sent people into.

Right, they should all be arrested, handcuffed, placed head first on a police van floor, and transported to jail that way. Praying the driver doesn't hit the breaks.

First, the government told us what to eat...then what our kids can eat...then how they are taught...then how we should have healthcare...next it will be how we are policed.

I think Sharpton jumped the gun when he said the government needs to fight the states for policing...she he knows more than most of us...

a reply to: UnBreakable

Then I guess the only thing to do is get rid of law enforcement all together by that rationale. Since they are getting out of hand and abusive now and according to your theory this will only bring in more bad cops then the only thing left to do is not have any cops then.

Or what else would you suggest??

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: matafuchs

If you have nothing to hide, there is no reason to flee.

Freddie Grey's death say's you're wrong.

The sad part will be when the six officers are found not guilty. Just friendly banter...

I highly doubt that ANY of these officers walk with no convictions at all.

This one...and the other where you state your opinion...

originally posted by: Okeyd57

Is anyone else concerned what this will mean for the future of law enforcement ? It's hard enough to find good cops now, but if these types of cases become the norm, what young guy with a bright mind would ever want to go into this field. Which means police forces will be forced to hire recruits with more questionable qualifications than they do now. I hate to think how that will work out.

"Young guy with a bright mind", are those recruits who have been rejected by departments that fear a well educated, and honest officer will cause them trouble down the road. We have some extremely well educated and sensible officers out there, as evidenced by those who post here. These are the types we need to be hiring. Unfortunately, not so in many areas of the country.

These type cases won't become the norm if we seek the best and brightest. They will become the rare exception.