Let's Talk About Prostitution

a reply to: Night Star

Some men like it because there is no BS or hassle when it comes to someone who will take money for their services. If you're a man looking for sex or even just intimacy or some kind it's not always easy to find. With a 'professional' everyone knows what's up and is up front about it.

Dating requires a lot of work and time and dedication and even then it doesn't always work out. Besides that, dating isn't the same for men as it is for women either. You can be a very normal average guy and find it very difficult to find a woman. In fact the more normal you are the harder it is to get women to pay attention to you sometimes.

Plus, sometimes you aren't looking for a relationship. You just want an encounter which is safe and you know what you're going to get out of it and there are no hangups and nobody gets hurt.

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Night Star
Our bodies are our own and sacred and should be shared with one we love and trust, not just some strange guy who wants to get his rocks off.

That's your opinion but that sentence is an oxy moron. If our bodies are our own then why do you say that a woman can not prostitute herself?

It really never was about telling her what to do with her body. Everybody knows there are prostitutes and whores.

Yes and those are bad words? Not in everyone's lexicon.

They don't call them hookers for nothing.

Do YOU know why they call them "Hooker's"?

Hooker was a military leader that kept women for the troops. Thus the name "Hooker's".

a reply to: Night Star

But weird men have desires, too, just the same as any other man. Their trouble is that it's harder for them to find women to satisfy the desires.

And, if they have weird desires, better to pay someone to help out than try and coerce a spouse or girlfriend.

Whatever is 'wrong' with a person, they still need some human contact. Its not always their fault if they are undesirable.

I totally understand that brothels in residential area are probably not the best idea, but town centres would be ok for the more discreet kind. Especially if the alternative is having women plying their trade in the streets.

What about a woman who has no option but to walk through streets known to have hookers touting for business? How unpleasant to be approached by men looking for sex.

It might be an idea, when legalising prostitution to make it an offense to approach a random stranger in the street in order to proposition them...

a reply to: Cuervo

I know this won't change your opinion but I want you to consider something. All of the things you said about prostitution seem like the seedy gross side-effects of it being illegal.

If it were legalized and respected, it wouldn't be sleazy and weird. Think less Law and Order and more like the companions in FireFly. Legalized prostitution would probably look like something between the two. Which, as many said, isn't any more sleazy than banking or selling used cars.

It may not be glamorous but it doesn't have to be gross, either.

It would still be the same in my eyes. A married man, or a man in a long term loving relationship goes off to have 'legal' sex with another woman still gets no respect from me in any way shape or form. How is his woman at home supposed to feel about that? How are his kids supposed to feel knowing their father lacks respect for their mother etc.? Same for other guys. I would never have a stranger touch me. That wouldn't turn me on, it would feel like rape. It would be gross. It's how I feel. It's not for me and I don't have to respect it and I will never see it as a respectful career when there are so many opportunities to do something with one's life.

Even if I had a daughter I adored and cherished, I would still love her with all my heart and soul, but there is no way I would find it respectful that she is allowing complete strangers to touch her. I'd be like, "Where's the shotgun?" LOL, Kidding.

originally posted by: Night Star
a reply to: Cuervo

I know this won't change your opinion but I want you to consider something. All of the things you said about prostitution seem like the seedy gross side-effects of it being illegal.

If it were legalized and respected, it wouldn't be sleazy and weird. Think less Law and Order and more like the companions in FireFly. Legalized prostitution would probably look like something between the two. Which, as many said, isn't any more sleazy than banking or selling used cars.

It may not be glamorous but it doesn't have to be gross, either.

It would still be the same in my eyes. A married man, or a man in a long term loving relationship goes off to have 'legal' sex with another woman still gets no respect from me in any way shape or form. How is his woman at home supposed to feel about that? How are his kids supposed to feel knowing their father lacks respect for their mother etc.? Same for other guys. I would never have a stranger touch me. That wouldn't turn me on, it would feel like rape. It would be gross. It's how I feel. It's not for me and I don't have to respect it and I will never see it as a respectful career when there are so many opportunities to do something with one's life.

Even if I had a daughter I adored and cherished, I would still love her with all my heart and soul, but there is no way I would find it respectful that she is allowing complete strangers to touch her. I'd be like, "Where's the shotgun?" LOL, Kidding.

But you are talking about adultery. Lots of things cause adultery. Like I said earlier, alcohol causes far more adultery than prostitutes. Adultery is a dishonest breach of vows and a legal contract... that's not cool no matter how a person did it, prostitute or not.

I'm sure you know people who have cheated on their spouses but you also said you don't know anybody who has hired a prostitute. So, by your own experience, none of the people you know who has cheated had done it with a prostitute.

Maybe it's time you disassociated adultery with prostitution? Most of their clients are just socially awkward people. Legalizing it won't change the legal status of adultery.

originally posted by: Night Star

It would still be the same in my eyes. A married man, or a man in a long term loving relationship goes off to have 'legal' sex with another woman still gets no respect from me in any way shape or form.

Well in that case I don't think he would deserve any respect either. If you're cheating on your partner, legal or not, you're still cheating and you're betraying someone else which isn't something anyone should respect in the first place.

But there are single men out there too. Widowed men who don't want to marry again and don't want another Love but still need the occasional time with a woman for both physical and emotional reasons.

a reply to: berenike

But weird men have desires, too, just the same as any other man. Their trouble is that it's harder for them to find women to satisfy the desires.

And, if they have weird desires, better to pay someone to help out than try and coerce a spouse or girlfriend.

If I were that guys spouse or girlfriend I'd be telling him to look for another spouse or girlfriend because clearly he isn't satisfied. I'm sure there is someone out there somewhere who has the same desires as him.

a reply to: Night Star

You keep thinking of it in terms of only married or attached men looking for a prostitute. There are far less of them then there are single men looking for a prostitute.

Not everyone has a partner to be with. If they did then they would most likely not be looking for a prostitute. But there are a lot of single people out there having a hard time finding someone to be with.

a reply to: Cuervo

True illegal or not there is adultery. Yes, people who have not payed for sex still cheat on loved ones. I can't argue that.

a reply to: Night Star

Actually there are men out there that don't want to pay the life fee. It's expensive to be married and raise kids. Some just don't want that but still need female contact. Thus the pro's. They aren't "creepy", they are just OK being in their OWN life. See House M.D.

a reply to: mOjOm

But there are single men out there too. Widowed men who don't want to marry again and don't want another Love but still need the occasional time with a woman for both physical and emotional reasons.

Never thought of that. But then again, there must be widowed women who feel the same. Why pay someone for it?

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Night Star

Actually there are men out there that don't want to pay the life fee. It's expensive to be married and raise kids. Some just don't want that but still need female contact. Thus the pro's. They aren't "creepy", they are just OK being in their OWN life. See House M.D.

There has to be both men and women out there who don't want to be married or in a serious relationship and they can surely find each other. Why pay????? LOL

I fully support legalized prostitution with specific rules that must be followed.

Rules that protect both prostitute and customer. Mostly health related, but also any act must be consensual.

originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Night Star

Actually there are men out there that don't want to pay the life fee. It's expensive to be married and raise kids. Some just don't want that but still need female contact. Thus the pro's. They aren't "creepy", they are just OK being in their OWN life. See House M.D.

There has to be both men and women out there who don't want to be married or in a serious relationship and they can surely find each other. Why pay????? LOL

Women don't have to. The way of the species. Men? Sometimes they have to. The way of the species.

a reply to: intrepid

Whatever floats their boat I guess. LOL
Just glad I'm not part of that scene is all.

a reply to: Night Star

Just because there are Widowed women out there doesn't mean they are looking for someone to be with. Also, you may not want to be with another person for the long term. It might be that you had your marriage which is now over, you don't want to do it again, you don't even want another partner, but now and then you still enjoy the company of someone and the physical encounter. It can make you crazy, depressed, psychologically damaged, etc. by not having close contact with someone for a long time. We are social creatures by design and intimacy is important in our functioning lives and sanity.

This way it's safe, everyone knows the deal, nobody gets hurt and everyone is honest about it.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Night Star

Actually there are men out there that don't want to pay the life fee. It's expensive to be married and raise kids. Some just don't want that but still need female contact. Thus the pro's. They aren't "creepy", they are just OK being in their OWN life. See House M.D.

There has to be both men and women out there who don't want to be married or in a serious relationship and they can surely find each other. Why pay????? LOL

Women don't have to. The way of the species. Men? Sometimes they have to. The way of the species.

Uh, yeah, but safe, unattached sex?

Men tend to be clingy.

a reply to: Night Star

I don't want you to feel I'm picking on you because I seem to have taken issue with all your posts

There are some men who wouldn't do certain things to a cherished loved one, so they seek relief elsewhere out of respect for their partner.

Also, one can never completely imagine what another person might find arousing - quite often, when I think I've heard it all I come across something completely unfathomable. I don't know how such people would find a willing mate, their choices might certainly be a bit limited and in the meantime, they are lonely.

A spouse visiting a prostitute might be traumatic for some, a relief for others. BUT - how many people would prefer their partner to occasionally visit a discreet brothel rather than get romantic notions about someone else and run off, abandoning the family?

Speaking for myself - I'd rather just call it a day if a partner wanted to look for comfort elsewhere, but I wouldn't want to deny a different choice to others.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Night Star

Actually there are men out there that don't want to pay the life fee. It's expensive to be married and raise kids. Some just don't want that but still need female contact. Thus the pro's. They aren't "creepy", they are just OK being in their OWN life. See House M.D.

There has to be both men and women out there who don't want to be married or in a serious relationship and they can surely find each other. Why pay????? LOL

Women don't have to. The way of the species. Men? Sometimes they have to. The way of the species.

Uh, yeah, but safe, unattached sex?

Men tend to be clingy.

Not lately. Polls are seeing men moving away from relationships and using these outlets. "Clingy"? You're seeing something I'm not.

a reply to: berenike

No problem. I understand there are always two sides to a story.