Kremlin Prepares For Major Mystery Announcement

originally posted by: CollisioN
there has been indeed many mysterious buildings, artifacts, monuments and such.

Care to list them, and why you think they are "mysterious "?

I don't know the purpose of trolling the believers

Well, people that are doing the trolling have books, DVD's and appearances to sell, and want money from the gullible.

originally posted by: jonwhite866
a reply to: Ridhya

It's not an announcement about their 'existence' but about their visitations. I'm pretty sure all of us know ETs exist. Billions of solar systems like ours in our galaxy, an estimate of 10,000+ galaxies seen in a 1inch spacing between stars each with trillions more stars and solar systems.

Aliens of some sort most likely do exist based on probability. But that is -not- the same as proof.

There is a whole interdisciplinary field called Astrobiology devoted to finding proof. But there is no credible evidence that any aliens have ever visited the Earth. Nevertheless the search continues.

originally posted by: jonwhite866
a reply to: ISeekTruth101

Also, just read the first 3 sections and they are quite interesting. Not quite sure what to make of them as of yet but I like to think this was true haha.

If this isn't though, you have to admire the thought put into such a story

Totally agree, I'd like to think it was all true as well, especially the part about the yellow book, you'll get to that in due time

Either way a lot of thought has gone into that material, so it is pretty cool.

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: CollisioN
there has been indeed many mysterious buildings, artifacts, monuments and such.

Care to list them, and why you think they are "mysterious "?

I don't know the purpose of trolling the believers

Well, people that are doing the trolling have books, DVD's and appearances to sell, and want money from the gullible.

So, I have to list them because we have nothing mysterious, everything is crystal clear?... Ok I will name few - recently watched about the 'Hall of records' allegedly where history of the past could be kept by very old civilization, one site of records mentioned under the Sphinx, a place that has to be discovered, another in South America. The Pyramids and that they were more than buildings for burial, especially the one in Giza, the drawings, sightings - reports of meeting civilization or people of outwardly appearance, the redhair giants found in (Nevada), the cauldrons in Russia, many existing monuments done by Native Americans in NA... While this is not proved, it holds the same possibility as talking about life in the universe.

How can one be open minded that because we find water under thick ice crusts on planet moons, there can be life of any kind (scientists are open minded but do not say there is, duh), at the same time with incomplete knowledge of history, one would not be open minded with just the same amount of proof - simply assumptions? That's what I find funny, I guess double standards apply in a lot of places.

It is the skeptics that I have to argue the most because sometimes they are just like the believers, however they believe in the god called 'Not' (in translation: denial).

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I was speaking about the purpose of Presidents trolling the public or the believers. Personally I do not think that 'They are saying the truth but because no one believes em, no one thinks they are saying the truth about aliens' - I do think those are just jokes and have no truth, but I don't see the purpose in doing it.

originally posted by: CollisioN
Ok I will name few - recently watched about the 'Hall of records' allegedly where history of the past could be kept by very old civilization, one site of records mentioned under the Sphinx, a place that has to be discovered, another in South America.

So your "source" is a vague tv show that makes some claims, but has no facts....

The Pyramids and that they were more than buildings for burial, especially the one in Giza,

Your source for that claim was another tv show?

the redhair giants found in (Nevada),

What red haired giants? skeptoid.com... shows they are just a made up story....

the cauldrons in Russia,

What cauldrons? www.abovetopsecret.com... shows it was just a silly story.

many existing monuments done by Native Americans in NA

Care to detail a few of these "monuments"...

So in fact you have nothing but made up stories, as expected.

Any status to the original report? We have gotten way off track IMHO.

a reply to: intrptr

Yes indeed - we judge Putin to be the missing alien in question...

NEXT!

a reply to: jonwhite866

No I'm very far from being incompetent . It seems you alien types just can't get through a debate without resorting to name calling. I see what I'm dealing with here.
I'm just waiting for you to Google what you claim because when you find that no such footage exists then I guess I can insult your research skills. You claimed the footage of UFOs in space exists. Yet you won't find it and then you insult me when I won't do the work for you.

Oh wow. I must have been absent from school the day we covered alien artifacts and mysterious buildings. Care to bring me up to speed?

Surly you're not insulting millions of Jews by saying their back breaking slave labor didn't build the pyramids are you?

reply to: CollisioN

a reply to: CollisioN

Please that's all for entertainment. Like the shows about the Bermuda triangle or shows on big foot or ghost hunters. Or shows on crop circles. I'm pretty sure it's been proven there's nothing but sand under the sphinx.
But there's an audience for this stuff so the producers will keep pumping it out never proving any thing never coming to any serious conclusions.

Still waiting for Russia to make the big reveal. What's taking them so long?

a reply to: hellobruce

HELLO? Since when do we have FACTS about aliens existing in the universe? Where did I claim that such things happened for sure?

I am saying that 'I am open minded that life exists in the universe because we have water under the ice on Enceladus, Europa or whichever else moon that may have properties suitable for organisms' is not any more credible than 'I am open minded that there may have been contact with another civilization (alien or dimensional if such dimensions exist - or even Earth civilization with higher technology than today) because of:

places like Yukatan and the Hall of records

(the Halls existing is as much assumption as seeing the water on Enceladus without actually going with a probe to test it) - yeah because of whatever study and behavior scientists conclude there may be water. In the same manner I can say, it was written by (name source) that such Halls exist. In both cases we haven't found if really so. Open minded - sure why not? How is my Hall of records any less credible when in both cases we talk about assumptions and open mindness? Other than questioning a skeptic's extreme bias?

Indian Sanskrit texts about Vimanas, the Incan ruins of Sacsayhuamá, Pyramid of Giza, the Pharaohs - allegedly may have been or had contact with such, the purpose of the Sphinx in Egypt, Puma Punku, Stone made gates, Stones and stories by Native Americans and others - where is your objjectivity that Native Americans and ancient Chinese speaking of encoutering a being from some object absolutely have been made up FOR SURE?

Where the knowledge about energy? How did they know that pyramids concentrate energy on the tip? Where the vast astronomy knowledge?


Why can one be open minded about life existing in the universe with NO PROOF that it does, but one cannot be open minded that any of the mentioned sources of HISTORY (and not TV show) could have had some contact?

I find it funny how someone cannot stay objective about things they don't know, I always consider the real science the one that should not doubt what they don't know.

MAIN STREAM close minded science = religion #2 (first religion is the church)


a reply to: AutumnWitch657

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: CollisioN

Please that's all for entertainment. Like the shows about the Bermuda triangle or shows on big foot or ghost hunters. Or shows on crop circles. I'm pretty sure it's been proven there's nothing but sand under the sphinx.
But there's an audience for this stuff so the producers will keep pumping it out never proving any thing never coming to any serious conclusions.

The way it is presented is for entertainment, the point is we never know if the knowledge of ancient civilizations hasn't really come from some advanced civ that may have shared some of it.

The only absurd thing is being open minded to 'Life existing in space - with no proof that we have it'

but at the same time


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You know what you are both doing? Repeating like a parrots the words that have become banal of every scientist you heared on TV 'I know life should exist in the universe but I don't think it has visited because .. -

How is having water on Enceladus (just to give an example) any bigger reason to be open minded about life in the universe, while all the artifacts, monuments and such - NO WAY?


Double standards much? I am not even a believer, I just don't disprove what I don't know, those who do, usually think they know everything.

originally posted by: CollisioN

a reply to: hellobruce

HELLO? Since when do we have FACTS about aliens existing in the universe? Where did I claim that such things happened for sure?

I am saying that 'I am open minded that life exists in the universe because we have water under the ice on Enceladus, Europa or whichever else moon that may have properties suitable for organisms' is not any more credible than 'I am open minded that there may have been contact with another civilization (alien or dimensional if such dimensions exist - or even Earth civilization with higher technology than today) because of:

places like Yukatan and the Hall of records

(the Halls existing is as much assumption as seeing the water on Enceladus without actually going with a probe to test it) - yeah because of whatever study and behavior scientists conclude there may be water. In the same manner I can say, it was written by (name source) that such Halls exist. In both cases we haven't found if really so. Open minded - sure why not? How is my Hall of records any less credible when in both cases we talk about assumptions and open mindness? Other than questioning a skeptic's extreme bias?

Indian Sanskrit texts about Vimanas, the Incan ruins of Sacsayhuamá, Pyramid of Giza, the Pharaohs - allegedly may have been or had contact with such, the purpose of the Sphinx in Egypt, Puma Punku, Stone made gates, Stones and stories by Native Americans and others - where is your objjectivity that Native Americans and ancient Chinese speaking of encoutering a being from some object absolutely have been made up FOR SURE?

Where the knowledge about energy? How did they know that pyramids concentrate energy on the tip? Where the vast astronomy knowledge?


Why can one be open minded about life existing in the universe with NO PROOF that it does, but one cannot be open minded that any of the mentioned sources of HISTORY (and not TV show) could have had some contact?

I find it funny how someone cannot stay objective about things they don't know, I always consider the real science the one that should not doubt what they don't know.

MAIN STREAM close minded science = religion #2 (first religion is the church)


a reply to: AutumnWitch657

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: CollisioN

Please that's all for entertainment. Like the shows about the Bermuda triangle or shows on big foot or ghost hunters. Or shows on crop circles. I'm pretty sure it's been proven there's nothing but sand under the sphinx.
But there's an audience for this stuff so the producers will keep pumping it out never proving any thing never coming to any serious conclusions.

The way it is presented is for entertainment, the point is we never know if the knowledge of ancient civilizations hasn't really come from some advanced civ that may have shared some of it.

The only absurd thing is being open minded to 'Life existing in space - with no proof that we have it'

but at the same time


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You know what you are both doing? Repeating like a parrots the words that have become banal of every scientist you heared on TV 'I know life should exist in the universe but I don't think it has visited because .. -

How is having water on Enceladus (just to give an example) any bigger reason to be open minded about life in the universe, while all the artifacts, monuments and such - NO WAY?


Double standards much? I am not even a believer, I just don't disprove what I don't know, those who do, usually think they know everything.

Let me reply first as one of the skeptics whom you have accused of extreme bias.
I don't have extreme bias. What I have are high standards of acceptable proof.
If I was so biased I wouldn't be a member of Above Top Secret in the first place. That very fact speaks volumes about an open mind . I'm looking for truth just as much as you . I just don't believe everything I read and when stories are just totally unbelievable I tend not to go with them as a credible source.
Now to answer the portion of your post addresses specifically to me.
I happen to have a pretty good cable package. Not the best but I'm covered by History Channel, H2, Military History, Science channel, Discovery Channel, you get the idea. With that I'm not unfamiliar with the programing you talk about. I do know,that these programs will include information which has been proven incorrect or has been debunked and proven false, or simply made up. They're not meant as an educational source but surly can be used as inspiration for additional study. They're reason for being is strictly entertainment. They don't bother to edit out things that have been disproved or misinterpreted.
Oh and just to come full circle , the fact that I've watched this programing is further proof that I'm not biased.

a reply to: jonwhite866

For the record yes you said UFOs in space but at the same time you have faith that we've been visited and that life exists off of our planet so for me to say alien craft really isn't much of a stretch. Did you mean our own craft in space? Did you intend that I assume you were talking about UFOs from earth? I'm thinking that wasn't your intention at all but do call me out for saying alien craft because of course you don't mean alien craft at all.

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657

Now to answer the portion of your post addresses specifically to me.
I happen to have a pretty good cable package. Not the best but I'm covered by History Channel, H2, Military History, Science channel, Discovery Channel, you get the idea. With that I'm not unfamiliar with the programing you talk about. I do know,that these programs will include information which has been proven incorrect or has been debunked and proven false, or simply made up. They're not meant as an educational source but surly can be used as inspiration for additional study. They're reason for being is strictly entertainment. They don't bother to edit out things that have been disproved or misinterpreted.
Oh and just to come full circle , the fact that I've watched this programing is further proof that I'm not biased.

It was mostly to him. I stopped taking Ancient Aliens claims when I also stopped taking Ufology in terms of non-humans seriously... this was mostly after Bushman's deathbed confession and other such, which was the cherry on the top. It all started with believing Reptilians in Dulce, Salt Lake City underground and finishes with questioning even the most prominent UFO cases such as Rendlesham, Kecksburg and others.

(not that I ever accepted all their claims - I am mostly into the idea based on some clues and unfound artifacts and places, as well as the overall knowledge Ancient Civs gained, why I think contact with advanced civ is not excludable) - of course I could be wrong about specific examples like redhair giants

- on a side note, whoever said it was just a fake story - arrows and red hairs have been found at the alleged place. I can give examples of things that were considered myth but proven to exist

Example, the city that was mentioned when defeating Goliath, proof of its existence has been found, There were other examples which I cant think of right now.

With my upper YouTube video even Atlantis could have been a real existing place as these halls - which may exist but are buried in jungles and hard to reach places..
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Also I am talking about open minded about life existing in the universe, but not opened minded about civilizations in contact with more advanced civ or beings - this is my question, we are talking about open mindness here, that they only apply to their bias, not that any of that is fact.

I don't say any of the things I mention are facts, but I am saying that those artifacts are the reason for accepting such possibility, like finding water on planets is a reason to be open minded for micro life elsewhere.

a reply to: jonwhite866

Here we have one of the most powerful men on the planet, confirming the presence of Aliens. Whoops! he is either certifiably insane, or he's right. Have I missed something?

So another "major announcement" come and gone like the ides of March. In like a lion out like a lamb, nothing.

a reply to: JadeStar

That's true, however I personally believe that there is plenty of evidence that has been found but it just hasn't been publicized for reasons unknown.

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

What insults? What name calling? Incompetence? That isn't an insult it's a description of what you appear to be. Lacking the ability to do something yourself. I've given you a few links to some videos but you've obviously decided to ignore them. And, please quote where I say "UFOs in space exist". Because I believe, when I was talking about footage, I was talking in general terms and not specific terms to get a certain point across on why we will call ALL footage released fake.

Again, you seem incompetent in reading and the definition of what's said.

a reply to: bkfd54

What was it exactly? When searching for it you don't get much as if it's just been forgotten about. Was it the conversation Putin had upon his appearance on Monday?