UK Pedophile Cover Up = US Franklin Scandal Cover Up

If this breaks, I wonder if it will be enough to push us into some sort of revolution. Anything from a demand to restructure government, or a demand that the public be allowed access to 'classified' documents and a more transparent communication with us constituents. I truly hope that this does not just disappear.

I was skeptical of this at first, but now I am definitely a believer. I was almost snatched a few times as a kid, and know plenty of other scary tales from my peers during those times.

If the deep, dark and sordid truth is dragged into the light I expect to hear a lot of things similar to Nazi war trials. "I was following orders", "I had no choice, they would have stripped me of my position", etc and lots and lots of finger pointing.

This is a cause that both the Americans and Brits could rally behind, regardless of their political leanings - these terrible events may actually galvanize the people and set them into action. We can hope!

The Hampstead Hoax is in no way comparable. There has been no indication from the extensive(compared to any other known case) "evidence" available that any of the Hampstead accused had friends in high places looking out for their interests until a couple of potheads unveiled the whole satanic cult, somewhat akin to a Scooby Doo episode.

originally posted by: arjunanda
So it looks like David Icke was telling us the truth all along and The Naysayers were either Shills or just Useful Idiots as a cover for these Monsters. Good OP and I'll keep an eye on this one

Peace, Arjunanda a reply to: Flatfish

It really makes you wonder huh? When you think about it, makes perfect sense. Because he was going on about perverts on peaks, those same perverts begin feeding him incredible stories of reptiles from very well sources leading him to believe those same stories that led to his discrediting. Who does that remind you of?

You ask me, the parallels between what happened to Paul Bennowictz and currently happening to Icke are staggering.

As for the OP, I mentioned it days ago. The presidio scandal started back in 1984 before the army closed it down 3 years later. Yes, more parallels but I'm sure it's just coincidence.

originally posted by: FireflyStars
If this breaks, I wonder if it will be enough to push us into some sort of revolution. Anything from a demand to restructure government, or a demand that the public be allowed access to 'classified' documents and a more transparent communication with us constituents. I truly hope that this does not just disappear.

This is a cause that both the Americans and Brits could rally behind, regardless of their political leanings - these terrible events may actually galvanize the people and set them into action. We can hope!

Hahahahahahaha, sorry I had a spout of keyboard laughter. You know there are people who still think Saddam Hussein was responsible for 911.

If it were to "break" I suspect suddenly and without warning we will find ourselves in a new theater of war as a distraction. Let's hope it's not with Russia.

Let us never forget that these same sickos are the same men/women capable of starting war at will.

originally posted by: elementalgrove
Gunderson was a big dog in the FBI for years! Hard to dismiss his work!

I can't say that I agree on this. I came to the conclusion a long time ago that if Gunderson said "Look here!", I'd best look in the opposite direction. He's part of a crew, a veritable industry, that I find highly suspect.

One might also note that this particular rabbit hole includes Hunter Thompson...which really disturbs me. Don't know if these comments make me one of those 'few members here that IMO have a vested interest in keeping the Franklin scandal covered up.' ...but this particular snakepit is not near as cut and dried as some folks make out.

a reply to: HighFive

My wife worked for a high flying PR company in Knightsbridge when we first met and one of her jobs was to book the social events and of course then the 'extra curricular escorts'. She was always given permission to stay to see everything went well and then left but always had a feeling that things were 'off'. With the revelations which she admits she never even considered in those days, she gets the feeling her instincts were quite right. What really got her was that most of the men were high flyers as well as their guests and nearly all married. Takes a bit to shock her but I know she wonders about it when reading about our scandalous paedophile rings tht the police and MI5 have leaked onto the net. Thank god there are still some people that think this needs to be addressed fast.

Hope your Franklin scandal gets the end result it obviously deserves, as I doubt men with these interests don't know their counterparts on the other side of the pond and in the rest of the world.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Personally when I listen to Gunderson I don't see a poker face, I see sincerity.
Either way he is a brave man to take on the FBI/CIA.
But he didn't start this investigation

The NE state senators, including John DeCamp, a decorated Vietnam vet,
that brought this issue to light before being smacked down
and silenced by the system, have credibility too.

Yes Franklin Scandal is an expansive crime.
High profile sex trafficking, satanism and sacrifice, multiple mysterious deaths
Gov. Corruption, bohemian grove, splitting children's personality, organized kidnapping

At the end of the day, it's hard to believe Larry King :
had a bedroom joining his work office at the Franklin building which many kids could describe
Rented children from boys town for other purposes than the children said.

Franklin shows the system of abuse, perpetrated by people in power, towards children.
First exposed at McMartin preschool and similar claims have continually been exposed.
Coincidence? You decide


McMartin preschool: children claimed they were taken to tunnels below school and abused, eventually it was exposed the school was built with tunnels that emerged in an adjacent building ??
McMartin tunnels found

Thank you all for the opinions

originally posted by: HighFive
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Personally when I listen to Gunderson I don't see a poker face, I see sincerity.
Either way he is a brave man to take on the FBI/CIA.

I don't dispute that something very bad happened and was covered up. A number of years ago, I researched the subject to the point that I was in some communications with the larger picture, and learned enough to back off. My comments regard Gunderson. This affair has multiple layers and nothing can be taken at face value. It is helpful to look at a person's playmates when assigning trust.

Or, watch YouTube and figure you've got it all sussed out.

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: HighFive
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

I don't dispute that something very bad happened and was covered up. A number of years ago, I researched the subject to the point that I was in some communications with the larger picture, and learned enough to back off. My comments regard Gunderson.

Thank you for the clarification. I've heard the attempts to discredit him.
I imagine anyone who took up this cause has been discredited in some form
And I can leave his accounts out of my research, and still AGREE WITH YOU that
"Something bad happened and was covered up"

But I must ask.... What caused you to "back off" ?? If you believe something happened?
Please share what makes you believe something bad happened and was covered up

The question is not whether we believe one person or not, but rather
Are these cases spanning oceans and time linked by their bizarre claims or just a random coincidence


Even in the face of threats we must speak truth to power.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

You seem to have a very jaded opinion about people researching this, you tube is not the end all be all, but it has brought much needed light to an issue that has been ignored for decades if not centuries.

To me Ted Gunderson has done work that everyone needs to look into, especially in regards to MK Ultra, people like Brice Taylor and Cathy O'Brien have done the world a service in exposing the true depth to which these dark occultists operate. In regards to your distrust of Gunderson, could you elaborate on it a little bit. You think his past with the FBI to be suspect? I guess I do not understand what you mean by veritable industry.

This has been one of the most difficult conspiracies to look into, it is tragic, abhorrent to everything good people hold dear and beyond the realm of understanding. Either way, I will echo Highfives question, what made you stop looking into it, do you believe you were threatened?

originally posted by: elementalgrove
I will echo Highfives question, what made you stop looking into it, do you believe you were threatened?

One needs to understand that there is no anonymity on the net. I'm pretty good at spotting patterns and connecting the dots. On two occasions, on two different issues, I've been a click away from leaving myself quite vulnerable. If I can get there, then folks with a lot more juice than me can reach the same conclusions. The fact that we haven't seen it speaks volumes.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

You are correct, there is no telling what lengths these people have gone to in order to stay in the shadows.

There is no anonymity and fortunately for us at this point, the collective consciousness is now starting to become aware of this. This means untraceable amounts of people are all at various stages of the rabbit hole. There is no way of closing pandora's box, now is the time time of information being available at an unprecedented rate and we will see all things that have been kept in the dark come to light!