Oregon Deputies Shoot Family's Miniature Pony, Leave Body in Neighbor's Yard and Lie

a reply to: AgentSmith

From your article,

The Oregon Humane Society did not receive a call from Deputy Helmer regarding Gir, but Baugnon said the deputy could have called another humane society for advice. "But if he called us, we wouldn't have had any authority to advise him to do anything in that scenario, especially without seeing the horse in person," Baugnon said. "We would have advised him to call a vet."

The officer said he called them, they said he didn't and even if he did they wouldn't advise him to kill the animal so I'll assume they're not the only organization who wouldn't advise that. And why would the police take it upon themselves to kill a lil horse and then just leave it on the neighbors yard? Wouldn't protocol be to call in a clean up crew because who the hell is gonna pay for this animals body to be disposed of? Clearly this animal wasn't wild, it belonged to someone so why didn't they try to figure out who the owners were? Good police work might have brought them to the conclusion the animal must've lived close by being that it couldn't stand or walk from the officers perspective. Instead he shot it and left it dead on someone's yard while going on his merry way. This story doesn't make any sense.

I live in Oregon and I am disgusted by this! Employment psychological tests doesn't matter because they just lie on that too just to get the job. Then you got an armed sociopath cop running around. How many calls do they get of a horse loose??? I assume not very often! So instead of dealing with it he just shot it and then lied about it. What did he think that the owner or humane society/vets wouldn't do a investigation???

Now some cases cops do have to shoot an animal. I had a friend that hit a bull going 45 miles in a little Toyota pickup. The bull was busted up bad, slowly dying and kicking in the middle of the road. It absolutely totaled the rig and they was lucky they walked away. The sheriff had to put it down on the scene and have a tow truck haul it off the road.

However, this cop didn't even think for himself ahead two minutes. No legs broken just shot in the face and lie about it. I mean the pony was not hurting anything. All they had to do was tie it up to a tree and let it mow your lawn for you till you found the owner. It's not a burden and it's not hurting a soul. Since this was a small town and rural area most homes have large property. It's obvious it got loose. I am sure the humane vet society would of come out with a rig the next day. There is just no excuse for this behavior. Many sheriff's departments themselves also have stables for search and rescue they could of stabled the pony.. Now how can I think up this stuff, but an officer whom is TRAINED and SCHOOLED can't think of this?

I used to live in that town and I know some of these people involved.

Crazy!

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: AgentSmith

The horse was shot in the neck, and the trajectory of the bullets was "not aligned with the commonly accepted path as described by the (American Veterinary Medical Association) for humane euthanasia by firearm," the lab report said.

From your story. And what about the humane society saying they never received the call? And why not let the vet handle it instead of saying, no, we will?

So, the rage continues.

Yup. So not only were they a$$holes, they were incompetent a$$holes.

Rage on.

They talk about criminals with guns Jesus some of these guys are lunatics.

-Yosemite Sam- "I am a rootin tootin cowboy and I haven't killed anything recently, my hands are itchin and twitching to blast something! Oh look someones pony! Blam! blam! blam! Yeehaw! That felt good! Maybe i'll shoot my own horse too HEHEHEE."

originally posted by: Swills
Clearly this animal wasn't wild, it belonged to someone so why didn't they try to figure out who the owners were? Good police work might have brought them to the conclusion the animal must've lived close by being that it couldn't stand or walk from the officers perspective. Instead he shot it and left it dead on someone's yard while going on his merry way. This story doesn't make any sense.

He has a short attention span and got bored with it after he poked it a few times and it didn't run off.

So he shot it to make the problem go away.

Wonder if this was 'city' police dealing with livestock. Livestock gets out on the the roads out here all the time. Worse that happens is problem animals go the the livestock auction.

As has been said before, there are no good cops.
Period.

Any "good cop" will come to the aid of a bad cop without hesitation.
That is "aiding and abetting" to us civilians, but to them, they're just protecting their brothers.

Wish I had a fraternal order of bros keeping my butt out of jail for all the laws I may break.

a reply to: Oaktree

There are good cops. My uncle is a cop and I only wish all officers followed his lead. Problem is there are bad cops and when they do bad things it's awful. Combine that with cops protecting each other, basically being above the law and getting away with murder. Add judges and prosecutors to the mix, they all run in the same circles and rarely does someone get held responsible for ones actions.

a reply to: DAVID64

I agree with this.

a reply to: 727Sky

Sick twisted murders with badges. What the hell is wrong with the world?

a reply to: 727Sky


I am impatient with this thread.
Where are the defenders of all things murderous?
You know like cops, the military, FEMA, militia, really bad NRA conceptions, Zionists, mercenaries, black bag specialists, crazed Muslims, Indonesian laws, Death Penalty advocates, haters of the opposing herds, folks who are totally aware of their god's intentions, you know, the uncivilized in-bred meth, gunpowder and faith crowd?
You kill a pony and that's not defended.
But killing humans, I mean really, who cares?
Just a bunch of sofites, probably liberals, Green Peace admirers and animal rights activists. No reason to worry about them. They aren't likely to packing.

If you are to a person, finding this incident to be appalling, you should also find the of slaughter of your own species to be as ghastly. Use this moment of horror to consider gaining a moral stance that is consistent about unnecessary murder.

All of this crap just stains our collective soul, culture and future.

originally posted by: DAVID64
There Are No Good Cops.

With thinking like that, you are just as much an idiot as the bad cops out there. My father is a great cop, has served 20+ years, has watched fellow brothers die from societies idiots. When will idiots like you, learn that there are always going to be bad people. Bad cops, bad bankers, bad taxi drivers, bad neighbors. Don't let your anger make you think black and white. You're a human being. Act like it.

a reply to: 727Skya reply to: 727Sky

Id be interested in finding out what happened in this story however, in a half a decade reading ATS this makes the second time that for some reason I just couldnt bring my heart to bear anything past the first paragraph of the OP. The thought of a family out there aching an ache as unbearable as that of losing such a unique furry family member of so many years
just disturbs me more than I think I can handle and reading enough to know the thing suffered , ok nowvI know I cant take that story into my thoughts. Theres just something evil and I mean that literally, about causing an animal suffering just like causing a child to. They are good, they dont judge or treat others ugly, they dont spread hate, and theyre innocent. And I feel especially sensitive to this stuff since my best and only several friends i have are animals and if u look at the research its fascinating my autism plays a huge part in why i cant make or get deep with people but have a relationship with my cats and dogs i consider as valid as anyone elses friendship tho most laugh at this notion. So it was one thing when cops fired too quickly when startled by the town drunk on a harmless storm thru town. Its no less tragic now ill assure u, but when theyre now taking out our kids and animals...ANIMALS/PETS truly the physical embodiment of family love and a tangible vessel a family can focus their love together on, its gone too far. Those people will hurt inside til the day they die when his memory arises its just not fair, they deserved to look back in peaceful reflexion at what would have been a long happy life they gave him and wrestle with the guilt that he deserved a death warm with his skin covered friends around him to see him off. God i just pray that had i kept reading id hav got to a part that said a fam member was with him when he died, hed be frightened enough and confused knowing nothing about weapons shooting tresspassing or cruelty since hed probably never had to experience it so i hope whwn he did he had the company of a loved one reassuring him and holding him tight so he wasnt scared when he let go but he was a "good boy" and "its ok everythings fine i love u" and :hugs: when he did. Sorry im rambling im just beside myself sometimes i wish ibwerent so sensitive about animals and i could understand the humor or entertainment in killingvthem

a reply to: 727Sky

Sad it always takes a gang of cowards dressed in blue,hiding behind a tin badge of ultimate cowardice,to end the life of something unable to defend itself...yeah these souless jerks need someone to deal them the same so they get to see how it feels.

a reply to: real_one


I think the evidence is a dead horse. We can safely say that horse did not attack anyone or threaten the officers to the point where they had to protect themselves with deadly force. They need to be addressed and retrained.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Oaktree

There are good cops. My uncle is a cop and I only wish all officers followed his lead. Problem is there are bad cops and when they do bad things it's awful. Combine that with cops protecting each other, basically being above the law and getting away with murder. Add judges and prosecutors to the mix, they all run in the same circles and rarely does someone get held responsible for ones actions.

Yup the tree grows deep. Bad police are just the tip of it. The police of old are far and few between now.

I don't see anyway of filtering out the bad one be for they even become police since any bad one would just lie anyways. It would take some complex ever changing moral test, and that still might not even do the job.

Some people are just idiots. When you get a number of them together, you get wacked out events like this.

The neighbor called for help, rather then just leading this mini back next door?

The cop decides to put him down, by shooting him in the cheek?

The owner talks to the press about his "pony"?

Sounds like Duck Dynasty or sumthin'.....

a reply to: 727Sky
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Let's keep treating it like the cops were joy riding and decided to stop and shoot a horse for a few giggles.

a reply to: Cypress

Once again in this report the police say they called the Humane Society, but the humane Society said they never got a call or should have been called.

Also this is a small horse not a wild deer that they got a report on. Why a quick search for the owner wasn't done, just show the department need to redo their training. The ones that can't pass the new level of training then need to be let go, not keep trying till they get it right.