Russian Appeasement continues as Obama lets Merkel lead and fail

originally posted by: Echtelion

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: Greathouse

So you`re telling us Nukeland, the son of a Biden, Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk, etc. are all Russian agents?...hmmm, interesting.

A brain is only worth something when it contains the right knowledge.

Oh nuclear war I've been hearing that since the 70s. Ain't going to happen.

The US neither has confronted Russia directly since the '70s. But if that happens, where will you be to face the consequences... in one of those underground bases, or outside on the surface?

Apparently you've forgotten about Afghanistan. Basically this the same thing oh and the Soviets lost in Afghanistan remember.

It's all a done deal. Obama couldn't give two monkies about Ukraine. He even told Putin he'd be a little more giving post elections. Without the USA who's gonna stop the Ruskies? Germany and France are a molly coddled miltary joke compared to Russia. They ain't gonna lose thousands of men fighting hardened battle proven Russians who believe in their cause, backed up by 10,000 nukes. What's Poroshenko gonna do? Nothing but lose, like the other day when his joke army ran away with theri tail betwen their legs. Putin's got this one figured out perfectly............................ Next stop Mariupol

a reply to: noeltrotsky

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: Echtelion

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: Greathouse

So you`re telling us Nukeland, the son of a Biden, Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk, etc. are all Russian agents?...hmmm, interesting.

A brain is only worth something when it contains the right knowledge.

Oh nuclear war I've been hearing that since the 70s. Ain't going to happen.

The US neither has confronted Russia directly since the '70s. But if that happens, where will you be to face the consequences... in one of those underground bases, or outside on the surface?

Apparently you've forgotten about Afghanistan. Basically this the same thing oh and the Soviets lost in Afghanistan remember.

The Russians withdrew leaving their chosen government in power. They did not lose. If yoy want an example of that look at the Yanks in Nam. They did lose that one to the other side, a bunch of rice paddy farmers.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: Echtelion

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: Greathouse

So you`re telling us Nukeland, the son of a Biden, Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk, etc. are all Russian agents?...hmmm, interesting.

A brain is only worth something when it contains the right knowledge.

Oh nuclear war I've been hearing that since the 70s. Ain't going to happen.

The US neither has confronted Russia directly since the '70s. But if that happens, where will you be to face the consequences... in one of those underground bases, or outside on the surface?

Apparently you've forgotten about Afghanistan. Basically this the same thing oh and the Soviets lost in Afghanistan remember.

The Russians withdrew leaving their chosen government in power. They did not lose. If yoy want an example of that look at the Yanks in Nam. They did lose that one to the other side, a bunch of rice paddy farmers.

You're splitting hairs. The same thing happened to the Russians in Afghanistan as happened to the US in and Nam. We lost you lost period.

The differences I can admit it your Nashi training will not allow you to admit it.

The Yanks lost properly in Nam. They ran off with tail between their legs quite literally.

Russia left in an orderly withdrawl leaving its chosen government in power.

You do notice the difference don't you?

a reply to: Greathouse

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
The Yanks lost properly in Nam. They ran off with tail between their legs quite literally.

Russia left in an orderly withdrawl leaving its chosen government in power.

You do notice the difference don't you?

a reply to: Greathouse

That's funny lol

By the way your term "yanks "the Aussies were actively fighting and Brits were supporting


Soviets got their asses handed to them in Afghanistan. And left a pupet in power and ran. Just like the US did in Vietnam, again the differences is I can admit it you cannot.

It all has to do with credibility brother.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
... Putin's got this one figured out perfectly............................ Next stop Mariupol

This is exactly how Russians think! Including Putin. The whole thread is full of Russians and their sympathizers calling me crazy but right after signing Mink 2 Putin is sending in more troops and pushing for more territory.

www.voanews.com...

Believe me, you pick up some guns and apply real sanctions Putin goes back to his palace outside the Kremlin very quickly.

www.businessinsider.com...

Walesa has successfully dealt with Russians, he isn't a fool.

After the Russians lost the Cold War and the Soviet Union collapsed one would think they learned that how the economy performs is important. Put a gun in a Russian hand and they forget everything and start shooting.

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
The Yanks lost properly in Nam. They ran off with tail between their legs quite literally.

Russia left in an orderly withdrawl leaving its chosen government in power.

You do notice the difference don't you?

a reply to: Greathouse

The Yanks ran off, the Russians didn't.
Putin's done Minsk so he can gain a little time. As long as Obama stays put then who's gonna stop Putin? Britain with its fifty planes? France with its handfull of tanks? The Germans with their mind controlled foreign adventure objections? I don't think so. Putin doesn't either.

That's funny lol

By the way your term "yanks "the Aussies were actively fighting and Brits were supporting


Soviets got their asses handed to them in Afghanistan. And left a pupet in power and ran. Just like the US did in Vietnam, again the differences is I can admit it you cannot.

It all has to do with credibility brother.

The Aussies to get invoved true. Brits stayed out of that one, just deserts for betraying them over Suez. You are sort of correct in that Russia and USA were both given a spanking by these Asians in that era. With modern tech it would have been a different story.

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
The Yanks lost properly in Nam. They ran off with tail between their legs quite literally.

Russia left in an orderly withdrawl leaving its chosen government in power.

You do notice the difference don't you?

a reply to: Greathouse

That's funny lol

By the way your term "yanks "the Aussies were actively fighting and Brits were supporting


Soviets got their asses handed to them in Afghanistan. And left a pupet in power and ran. Just like the US did in Vietnam, again the differences is I can admit it you cannot.

It all has to do with credibility brother.

originally posted by: noeltrotsky

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
... Putin's got this one figured out perfectly............................ Next stop Mariupol

After the Russians lost the Cold War and the Soviet Union collapsed one would think they learned that how the economy performs is important. Put a gun in a Russian hand and they forget everything and start shooting.

Russia didn't lose the Cold War, relations warmed and nuclear treaties followed which meant forces could be withdrawn back to their borders. Nationalism blew the USSR apart, that was typical USA dirty tricks CIA trough Stratfor Hey where are we seeing that again in Ukraine?

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
The Aussies to get invoved true. Brits stayed out of that one, just deserts for betraying them over Suez. You are sort of correct in that Russia and USA were both given a spanking by these Asians in that era. With modern tech it would have been a different story.

originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
The Yanks lost properly in Nam. They ran off with tail between their legs quite literally.

Russia left in an orderly withdrawl leaving its chosen government in power.

You do notice the difference don't you?

a reply to: Greathouse

That's funny lol

By the way your term "yanks "the Aussies were actively fighting and Brits were supporting


Soviets got their asses handed to them in Afghanistan. And left a pupet in power and ran. Just like the US did in Vietnam, again the differences is I can admit it you cannot.

It all has to do with credibility brother.

Change the statement but don't admit any loss by Russia. It all has to do with credibility brother.