3 soldiers stabbed by attacker in Nice, France

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

In all fairness it was vapid & it's an argument that has been repeated ad nauseam with nobody backing it up...


Rather than discussing Middle Eastern Culture, which is what it is, people label it Islamic, which it isn't...



Forgive my manners... But it's becoming a monotonous theme of ATS.

a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

"Out of every populas that has extremity in religion - 1% are fruit and nut"

Which is why we get all of those religious extremist which come from faiths other than Islam.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

In all fairness it was vapid & it's an argument that has been repeated ad nauseam with nobody backing it up...


Rather than discussing Middle Eastern Culture, which is what it is, people label it Islamic, which it isn't...



Forgive my manners... But it's becoming a monotonous theme of ATS.

I admit being a little angry when I wrote "the doesn't represent islam". I know it really doesn't, but the constant stream of reports of islamic terrorism really wears on a person. And in my mind, that's what this is. They may not represent islam, but they certain USE islam as justification for the atrocities they commit, and that's where I take issue.

70 years after the holocaust, the saddening truth is that jews are not safe anymore in Europe.
During the remembrance politicians said that Auswitch is a warning of wat could happen if we look away for antisemitism and discrimination, but that is exactly what they have been doing for many years with the result that jewish people have to flee out of Europe.
It has come to the point that military personel has to guard schools and synagogues.
The stabbing of three france soldiers by a jihadist near a synagogue should therefore not come as a surprise, no, we should be happy with the outcome that nobody died.
If he had a AK47 it could have been another bloodbath with many casualties and injured people in the streets of France.
Europe has laid a ground for islam and jihadis to flourish , while some politicians and many civilians have been trying to put an end to this they were simply dismissed as populists and nazi far right extremists.
Teachers in schools don't even start with lessons about the holocaust, they are afraid to do so and what do politicians say? they will investigate how schools should handle this problem.

Last week a teacher said to his students that a cartoon is not a valid reason to kill people, his students did not agree, among them was one student who wanted to shake hands with the perpetrators of Charlie Hebdo and at the jewish store, he started a petition to have the teacher sacked and other students had signed it except one.
This one student was beaten severely with a baseball bat by ten other students.
In France and Belgium it is the reality that military personnel have to guard the places where jewish schools are or synagogues.
But they are easy targets, cops too, here in the Netherlands soldiers are not allowed to were their uniform so they cannot easily be recognized.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

You should probably start asking yourself, if "islamic terrorism" is such a minor occurance comparative to all other forms of terrorism, why is it our governments and state sponsored propaganda services keep reporting on it so much?

Is it perhaps something you think to do with the fact that America and a handful of European nations have been engaged in a war with predominantly muslim countries for nearly two decades now?

originally posted by: Dabrazzo
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

You should probably start asking yourself, if "islamic terrorism" is such a minor occurance comparative to all other forms of terrorism, why is it our governments and state sponsored propaganda services keep reporting on it so much?

Is it perhaps something you think to do with the fact that America and a handful of European nations have been engaged in a war with predominantly muslim countries for nearly two decades now?

Until recently, other forms of terrorism hadn't had an extensive media PR and recruiting campaign. Other terrorist groups don't flood the internet with pictures of the atrocities they commit, videos of their brutal killings, etc. If there are, please correct me because I do want to be wrong with this.

a reply to: earthling42

French scrapping the progressive mindset of tolerance in three.......two.......one. If attacks like this continue the French people are going to say enough is enough in the very near future. Deportations.......trials......rallies......nationalism.......hate. We have seen this before and it is coming again.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

That is something of the past, it has become very clear that it is islam, not someone doing this on his own.
Jihadis are widely supported, that alone should be a more than valid enough answer.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun


Take a look around the world at the fruits of islam:


Division.

Hatred.

Atrocities.

War.

Terror.

Brutality.

Oppression.

Destruction.

Desecration.


I could keep going...in the heart of a reasoned man, the truth is evident.


"His shall be a nature none can tame; hating all and hated by all, he shall pitch his camp eastwards of his brethren."

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Yes but to what extent do you think you would ever hear or find out about that if it were not for the fact government media reports on it?

a reply to: SubTruth

I'm afraid so

originally posted by: Dabrazzo
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Yes but to what extent do you think you would ever hear or find out about that if it were not for the fact government media reports on it?

If it were widely spread on the internet as ISIS has done you can bet people would not be ignorant of it.

an elderly woman was struck by a car today . a farmer killed by a bull . a child raped by another child . a mountain climber fell and was paralysed . a nun choked on a chicken bone . those all happened . the stabbing happened to create lies . the fact that you are writing about the stabbing which really doesn't qualify as Above Top Secret news shows how efficient such an attack was .

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs


In all fairness it was vapid & it's an argument that has been repeated ad nauseam with nobody backing it up...


Rather than discussing Middle Eastern Culture, which is what it is, people label it Islamic, which it isn't...



Forgive my manners... But it's becoming a monotonous theme of ATS.

In all fairness, it is not 'Middle Eastern Culture." Here are only SOME of the countries experiencing the joy of islamic violence and turmoil:


Algeria
Argentina
Afghanistan
Bangladesh
Canada
Egypt
India
Indonesia
Iraq
Israel
Lebanon
Pakistan
Philippines
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Syria
Tajikistan
Thailand
Turkey
United States
Uzbekistan
Yemen


Newsflash: This is a global pandemic that is bound by the tenets of the religion.


It is not regional. It is not cultural. It is systemic and intrinsic.


It IS islam.

a reply to: Seamrog

Tell me...

What is Islamic violence please?

Is it different to Human violence?


Before you bore me into submission by claiming "it's in the Quran"...
I'll put that to bed right now...

There is no violence permitted in the Quran, that isn't based on self defence...



So you can either tell me that this Islamic violence that is so widespread is either self defence in which case, so what...

Or you can face upto the fact that it's actually Human nature with a hint of regional & tribal culture...




Don't waste my time with whacky websites...
Don't cherry pick a verse that you think will prove your point...


Choose one of the options above, & we'll go seperate ways.

Violence is preordained. It's a trip seeing the rest of the world get duped like we did here in the US. I don't know what's real or fiction anymore but I do know war is coming. They are putting a whole lot of time into making it so. Real or imagined, the end result will be the same. Nothing will change that.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs


First you claim it is 'Middle Eastern Culture' - now it is 'human nature' - and wait....here's the best: 'with a hint of regional and tribal culture!'


You can't have your cake and eat it too.


Don't waste my time with selective exhortation and feigned outrage or your silly backtracking.


Your paper is thin and the world is seeing through it.

originally posted by: LOSTinAMERICA
Violence is preordained. It's a trip seeing the rest of the world get duped like we did here in the US. I don't know what's real or fiction anymore but I do know war is coming. They are putting a whole lot of time into making it so. Real or imagined, the end result will be the same. Nothing will change that.

And you know what is really scary is the people so brainwashed they are frothing at the mouth calling for war.....its a f# disgrace....the hate card is being played more and more each day....it is like islamaphobia is the new "cool"

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
...it is like islamaphobia is the new "cool"

Cute, except it's not.


Rational people are logically and historically examining this religion, its followers, and the effect it is having on our world and are waking up to the significance of the threat it poses to western culture.


I have never called for violence, in spite of your hysteria.


If enough people understand the reprobate that mohommad was, and the fallacy of his 'inspired' texts, islam will take care of itself.

a reply to: Seamrog

Well we were discussing Syria, that Middle Eastern Country... I'm sure you know the one... It has a Middle Eastern Culture...

Before you decided to be a hero & interrupted deciding to list off a whole host of other Nations that had nothing to do with what we was talking about...

So what you call back tracking... Was actually a rebuttal to encompass the inventory of States you felt necessary to interject with...



& I see you cannot answer my question...
But that was pretty predictable really though, wasn't it...

Because you know anything considered Islamic must come from the Quran...
& because the Quran doesn't say what you would like it to say about violence, you cannot back up calling it Islamic...

People like you come and go in these threads...

Always with the same argument...



I rarely explain things now because if people want to live in a bubble, that's up to them...
For my signature guides me on that...


But when I'm interrupted with irrelevent data to the discussion I'm having...
I'm happy to oblige with a response.


Salam Alaykum.