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Protests against Charlie Hebdo’s depiction of the Prophet Mohamed have continued to grow in strength in some parts of the predominantly Muslim world, as publishers confirmed that a new edition of the magazine won’t be released for a number of weeks.
In Chechnya, extraordinary images showed hundreds of thousands taking to the streets after the Kremlin-backed regional government declared a holiday for people to attend the demonstration.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ~Lucidity
I call it racism because it is the simplest word to use and has the widest definition (considering race doesn't exist and all). I guess you could call it bigotry though. In any case it is the same class of intolerance as racism.
originally posted by: UnBreakable
originally posted by: stargatetravels
Wow just what ATS needs, another stupid, ignorant & absurd thread/post asking for all Muslims to take to the streets and condemn the attacks.
I don't think the OP is saying that. He's questioning why he hasn't heard governments of Islanmic countries condemning this, not ALL Muslims apologizing.
"Most Islamic nations appear to have shown no solidarity with those murdered and only protested against the cartoons/freedom of speech.
YET
Politicians have said nothing. They have NOT spoke up for the people of the west."
originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: UnBreakable
The problem is they have
en.wikipedia.org...
There are a number of predominently Islamic countries on that list, including Albania, Afghanistan, Algeria, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Jordan, Kosovo, Malaysia, Morocco, Pakistan, Palestine, Turkey and UAE ALL of which condemned the attack.
Just because the poster is ill informed, does not mean he is right.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: kaylaluv
So sad... This is EXACTLY what these Islamophobes wanted and they STILL show their hatred. Ah well, they've shown the true colors of the "we want Muslims to protest terrorism" movement. It's all rhetoric to disguise their bigotry.
So, lets hear it - do you consider murdering people in their place of work an act of bigotry? How about chopping off someones head just because they're a westerner?
Go on, you tell me - what SHOULD the response to such events be and why?
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
The proper response is anger and outrage directed at those that are directly responsible. It's inconvenient that they were killed - they should have had a trial. Something for all the world to see
You seem to want to hold an entire demographic responsible for the actions of a few. It doesn't matter if it was three people or three thousand - it wasn't, and never will be - all Muslims
I'm guessing you have no intention of getting a grip. So, since you asked the question - what do you think the proper response should be?
Since the attacks on Paris, I've noticed how little we've heard condemning the events from the Muslim world. For clarity, sure some western muslims have said they didn't support what happened, many condemned. But what of Islamic nations, where are the responses from the people of these countries?
So from my perspective: The majority of western muslims appear to have been silent. People will suspect this is because they support what happened or at least, think that they "brought it on themselves". A few western muslims have spoken out but many have qualified that criticism by saying people should not be allowed to "insult the prophet" (i.e. restriction on freedom of speech). Most Islamic nations appear to have shown no solidarity with those murdered and only protested against the cartoons/freedom of speech.
What I DO want is to know - Do you condemn or condone? It is simple. This DOES NOT simply apply to muslims BUT they are the ones who've been suspiciously quiet on the subject. Anyone with a few functioning braincells would have to ask why that is.
Here in the UK, the simple answer is to change the legislation on the ownership of handguns. I'm not talking about US style free for all. That isn't us BUT that those of a certain again and above, with no history of criminality or mental health issues should be allowed to own, conceal and carry handguns.
This will mean there are NO soft targets and massacres on this type of scale simply won't be possible any more.
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: citizenx1
From your OP:
Since the attacks on Paris, I've noticed how little we've heard condemning the events from the Muslim world. For clarity, sure some western muslims have said they didn't support what happened, many condemned. But what of Islamic nations, where are the responses from the people of these countries?
So from my perspective: The majority of western muslims appear to have been silent. People will suspect this is because they support what happened or at least, think that they "brought it on themselves". A few western muslims have spoken out but many have qualified that criticism by saying people should not be allowed to "insult the prophet" (i.e. restriction on freedom of speech). Most Islamic nations appear to have shown no solidarity with those murdered and only protested against the cartoons/freedom of speech.
And now - you're shouting:
What I DO want is to know - Do you condemn or condone? It is simple. This DOES NOT simply apply to muslims BUT they are the ones who've been suspiciously quiet on the subject. Anyone with a few functioning braincells would have to ask why that is.
Nice try :-)
Here in the UK, the simple answer is to change the legislation on the ownership of handguns. I'm not talking about US style free for all. That isn't us BUT that those of a certain again and above, with no history of criminality or mental health issues should be allowed to own, conceal and carry handguns.
This will mean there are NO soft targets and massacres on this type of scale simply won't be possible any more.
Yes, the U.S. example is stellar - no soft target massacres on our soil - and we are armed to the teeth
Your argument is incoherent
originally posted by: citizenx1
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ~Lucidity
I call it racism because it is the simplest word to use and has the widest definition (considering race doesn't exist and all). I guess you could call it bigotry though. In any case it is the same class of intolerance as racism.
BS. I was fully tolerant up until the disgusting events of Charlie Hebdo.
You can try that line if you like but it just discredits you entirely.
It's like those who scream "anti-Semitism" when people criticise Israel. Nonsense and infantile.
originally posted by: citizenx1
I'm glad you mentioned bigotry. Lets also throw intolerance into the mix.
So, lets hear it - do you consider murdering people in their place of work an act of bigotry? How about chopping off someones head just because they're a westerner?
Do you think tolerance should only work one way?
Maybe you think people should just bow down and say nothing about such events?
Go on, you tell me - what SHOULD the response to such events be and why?