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originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: zazzafrazz
Your observation is correct, I am anti-catholic, but not because I was bred this way. Until recently I knew nothing about the catholic faith other than the Pope and the huge cathederals. As I began to learn about the Catholic traditions, the more I began to realize that it has very little to do with the bible.
Most Christians acknowledge that we are to hold the Bible as the Word of God. By doing that very thing myself, Im just in utter shock at what the catholic church feeds its followers.
What really bothers my is how Christ made us all priests, yet the Catholic church insists on forcing a false priesthood onto its followers. Its slavery in my eyes.
I have more respect for Islam. Atleast the muslims that I know actually follow what their holy book says.
The bible is an instruction book for our spiritual life. If the catholic traditions are true, then they must harmonize with the bible, but an objective look at the catholic claims prove that not to be the case.
Again, I made this thread to address specific points directed at me by a specific member. We will see how this develops.
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
As I began to learn about the Catholic traditions, the more I began to realize that it has very little to do with the bible.
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
how can the Roman Catholic political powerhouse justify the ordination of "catholic priests",
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
Peter was the first brick to be layed on the cornerstone as he was the first to confess the faith, but that does not give him more authority.
Peter alone was promised something else also: "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven" (Matt. 16:19). In ancient times, keys were the hallmark of authority. A walled city might have one great gate; and that gate had one great lock, worked by one great key. To be given the key to the city—an honor that exists even today, though its import is lost—meant to be given free access to and authority over the city. The city to which Peter was given the keys was the heavenly city itself. This symbolism for authority is used elsewhere in the Bible (Is. 22:22, Rev. 1:18).
5. Peter is almost without exception named first whenever he appears with anyone else. In one (only?) example to the contrary, Galatians 2:9, where he ("Cephas") is listed after James and before John, he is clearly preeminent in the entire context (e.g., 1:18-19; 2:7-8).
6. Peter alone among the apostles receives a new name, Rock, solemnly conferred (Jn 1:42; Mt 16:18).
7. Likewise, Peter is regarded by Jesus as the Chief Shepherd after Himself (Jn 21:15-17), singularly by name, and over the universal Church, even though others have a similar but subordinate role (Acts 20:28; 1 Pet 5:2).
8. Peter alone among the apostles is mentioned by name as having been prayed for by Jesus Christ in order that his "faith may not fail" (Lk 22:32).
9. Peter alone among the apostles is exhorted by Jesus to "strengthen your brethren" (Lk 22:32).
Like another poster stated, Spend more time with Christ, and less time in bashing His Church.
How soon so many folks forget, we were ALL Catholics until the Protestant Deformation/Reformation.
Why did Jesus tell him to go see a priest?
I'll reply when you answer all the questions i've posed to you in other threads. Your answers would expose your apostasy, so you wont.
What is your authority? Who "made up" the ideas you espouse? Jesus started my church. Who started yours?
I suggest that, instead of getting your education via Jack Chick tracts and anti-Catholic fundamentalist preachers, you actually go to the source and read what they believe and why.
The Catholic priesthood comes from scripture and from JESUS Himself.
Peter was give full authority over the Church by Christ Himself. And it is very clear by the actions of the apostles that Peter had authority over them.
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
Perhaps if you actually took the time to read what I wrote, I would not have to repeat myself.
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
We dont need the Catholic church to tell us what to believe, all we have to do is study under a Pastor and ask God in Jesus' name.
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: zazzafrazz
Your observation is correct, I am anti-catholic
Most Christians acknowledge that we are to hold the Bible as the Word of God.
The bible is an instruction book for our spiritual life
I have found over my old decrepit years the louder someone yells, the more deep down they doubt their own beliefs. You yell to convince yourself of your 'correct' stance rather than coming from a soul/mind that understands self and has love for your fellow human (not just Christians)
The topic - Why do Catholics have priests? I have answered it. In abundance. I suggest you read the information and learn.
I read it. It has been proven wrong. Perhaps if you actually took the time to read what I wrote, and read the information given, I would not have to repeat myself.