An image, generated by the actions of its believers... What is really going on?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: angus1745

Science has as many gaps as any god ever did. So I petition we add it to the pile of gods under discussion.

That's just crazy to say that. We all know science is sometimes wrong and doesn't always answer all the questions we have but to say it's even close to being equal as religion is insane. Science has created engineering, computers, space travel, genetics, biology, medial science, industrial revolution, biochemistry, vehicles, etc. The list is practically endless what science has done for us. In fact it is science that has removed what was once just a stinking pile of religious superstitions that did nothing but keep people enslaved to fear of the unknown.

Even now in today's modern era it's Religion that is ripping apart society not science. However, it is science that has developed to the point where we can actually destroy ourselves once and for all which again proves that at least science does work. Religion has not only failed to bring us spiritual advancement or a better society, it offers little practical knowledge.

originally posted by: Paperjacket
a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Well this is an interesting thread and I think discussions will finally lead to the question who ARE those godS? Are they even the same?

Or maybe this is an unnecessary personification of something that says about itself: it is everywhere at the same time, it is part of everything but not like anything else. Ever thought about how you try to go full speed while your standing on the breaks?

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

The very idea of surrender is basically difficult, and to ask for total surrender is to ask for the impossible. We should think in human terms. We are dealing with human beings, we should not ask something which they cannot do. And when they cannot do something and are condemned, they start feeling guilty that they are not open, that they are not totally surrendered, that there are doubts in their mind.

Osho

If one wants to externalize their inner voice of reason or conscience and call it god... I suppose that is their business, until they use this universal delusion for harm to others instead of help. When dealing with the extremes drawn from various life ideologies makes this apt to happen due to human nature it's ego and resulting denial of the anima mundi.

The ideological systems of extremes known as religion, put god as a shepard with a flock of followers instead of on equal ground. Choose the tree of life? Through reincarnation you'll reap it's fruit well... yet, eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil will eventually cause release and place one and all gods on equal ground, remove the ego and shatter it's house, and the one becomes a teacher among gods and demigods.

Let's not forget many religions and cultures have had a charismatic leader, that rose to such a throne on earth declaring themselves god... most did not rule with benevolence, empathy, and compassion to their sheep either due to their self and other over inflating their ego. Of course a god would kick someone out of, what such a god would call paradise when their sheep understand extremes of good and evil, and start seeing this god for whom they really are.

originally posted by: rememberthetrees
a reply to: Ophiuchus 13
Great thread! I often contemplate this as well!! The sacrifice archetype! It creates a barrier in the subconscious? It keeps people from really understanding the truth!

Agreed rememberthetrees because as these archetypes and or activities associated are forced upon many who may be related to a similar religious group think, they can begin to steer that group off the paths of enlightenment. And by doing so it causes non TRUTH to be spread and then manipulated into the minds of the youth who in the future as they grow into adults can continue to FORCE certain group thinks based on ignorance upon others.

All why proving how much non compassion exist for the primary religious-Ethnic GROUP represented, which in turn paints a bad image of the Primary Religious group represented pushing potential knowledge seeking followers away, as the Ignorant ones continue to spread non truth associated with these sacrifice of others archetypes (because it seems the manipulated youth are the ones taking the most sacrifices) why those who manipulate them hide or attempt to hide from the EYE of the TRUE GOD/LORD observing them through the eyes of its WATCHERS over the species of mankind. And so how much do they really believe or not 1 wonders?

originally posted by: SystemResistor
Take all the known sentience that exists, create a database of all of them, and then compile all of them into one conscious representation - of course, you have to take yourself into account, so, create a hypothetical "third person" that also accounts for you, and then, the total of all of this is God from the standpoint of God as being an observer of himself.

1 agrees as ALL* are CREATED from the CREATOR /GOD who make up the WHOLE* and yes through each of the various CREATORS Creations perceptions The CREATOR/GOD is able to view-evaluate and even re-adjust/balance thyself with the actions from its Creations.
Makes LOGICAL sense SystemResistor

originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
If one wants to externalize their inner voice of reason or conscience and call it god... I suppose that is their business, until they use this universal delusion for harm to others instead of help. When dealing with the extremes drawn from various life ideologies makes this apt to happen due to human nature it's ego and resulting denial of the anima mundi.

Yes if that innervoice or even the consciousness of the TRUE LORD communicating with whomever is helping them to enlighten others on TRUTH to support CREATOR Creation or species progression & encouraging working together as a species or a CREATOR Creation group of many for the benefit of the Future the YOUTH, then 1 also sees no problem BigBrotherDarkness

originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
The ideological systems of extremes known as religion, put god as a Shepard with a flock of followers instead of on equal ground. Choose the tree of life? Through reincarnation you'll reap it's fruit well... yet, eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil will eventually cause release and place one and all gods on equal ground, remove the ego and shatter it's house, and the one becomes a teacher among gods and demigods.

Personally 1 associates the Shepard and the flock layout with those who parented if not Created mankind sharing information that although yes humans may be a developing and technologically advancing they still have more elder or advanced relations…
So I don’t see an issue there as much except when that layout is hijacked by mass manipulators of the minds of man who wish to place themselves in the Shepard position to mislead the flock for their own agenda of Service To Self (S.T.S)…

originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
Let's not forget many religions and cultures have had a charismatic leader, that rose to such a throne on earth declaring themselves god... most did not rule with benevolence, empathy, and compassion to their sheep either due to their self and other over inflating their ego. Of course a god would kick someone out of, what such a god would call paradise when their sheep understand extremes of good and evil, and start seeing this god for whom they really are.


Interesting, and acknowledged…

Thank you all for taking time to add your conscious input on the OP. It is just ODD to 1 how some wish to want respected and be acknowledged.
But in the same thought they will DEMONstrate some of the most ignorant disrespectful malevolent species self-hatred acts upon their own species/ethnic groups and even religions.
And so WHAT image are they painting with the WORST brushes available of the GOD and PRIMARY religion they represent?

a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Reality is there, problem is... it's typically covered up by the 7 billion plus other realities :p

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Nearly every religion ever created by man
(and that's all of them) are in fact gruesome
death cults.

Religions always advertise their primary
weakness. So a religion which claims to
be about love are really about hate.

Religions about peace are really about
war.

Just pickup any 8th grade text book....
it's that obvious.

Kev