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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
Why is it bad to call a spade a spade?
if this man was acting alone and just talked about isis then why should it be used to promote the idea of going into another war when it very well could habe nothing to do with anything going on?
I get it, you want all these people dead and any reason will do.
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
Why is it bad to call a spade a spade?
if this man was acting alone and just talked about isis then why should it be used to promote the idea of going into another war when it very well could habe nothing to do with anything going on?
I get it, you want all these people dead and any reason will do.
No connection at all to ISIS .
Can you rationally explain why a guy would ask for an Isis flag during a siege?
originally posted by: FlyersFan
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
originally posted by: Walsh
Again this guy is a Shia with no connection to ISIS
He asked for a flag and he wanted to be connected.
In addition to todays terror, he killed his wife and raped a lot of people.
He acted out in terrorism like ISIS would act out.
He may not have had an official ISIS membership card, but he was ISIS in his black heart.
As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
originally posted by: Walsh
originally posted by: FlyersFan
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
originally posted by: Walsh
Again this guy is a Shia with no connection to ISIS
He asked for a flag and he wanted to be connected.
In addition to todays terror, he killed his wife and raped a lot of people.
He acted out in terrorism like ISIS would act out.
He may not have had an official ISIS membership card, but he was ISIS in his black heart.
As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
show me proof that he asked for an ISIS flag? what is an ISIS flag please tell me ?
originally posted by: mr-lizard
No connection at all to ISIS .
Here is the list of demands
imgur.com...
To be absolutely certain, you can cross reference the hostage name to her facebook account, which seems to verify that she was a hostage. I'm not naming or linking to her besides the photo.
As you can see from the demands, one of the requests was an Isis flag. That is one connection to Isis. Thus debunking the 'no connection' angle.
'The man wants the world to know that Australia is under attack by the Islamic state'
That is his statement (via the hostage).
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Now, here's the hostage actually speaking and you can hear her asking for an Isis flag.
www.liveleak.com...
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: TinfoilTP
Where am I calling for a cover up?
I am just asking that this event be looked at just like the ones where people kill 27 people in the states.
A person who snapped from outside sources.
originally posted by: Walsh
originally posted by: mr-lizard
No connection at all to ISIS .
Here is the list of demands
imgur.com...
To be absolutely certain, you can cross reference the hostage name to her facebook account, which seems to verify that she was a hostage. I'm not naming or linking to her besides the photo.
As you can see from the demands, one of the requests was an Isis flag. That is one connection to Isis. Thus debunking the 'no connection' angle.
'The man wants the world to know that Australia is under attack by the Islamic state'
That is his statement (via the hostage).
---
Now, here's the hostage actually speaking and you can hear her asking for an Isis flag.
www.liveleak.com...
well this is an interesting turn of events . this is starting to get strange to me ... it make no sens that this guy (shia) would want anything to do with the ISIS , my apologies for jumping to conclusion.. you have to understand in the wrold of Islam this is like Oil and water ... Shia and sunnie do not mix ... and for century's their had been blood shed between the two ..
now this warrants further investigation ..
i stand corrected
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: daaskapital
You know that it will be used.
And yes any connection should be looked into but not paraded as fact until then.
originally posted by: daaskapital
a reply to: Walsh
Wow.
I honestly wasn't expecting such a reply.
Well, kudos i guess. For accepting that you stand corrected and that this needs further investigation.
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
originally posted by: Walsh
originally posted by: mr-lizard
No connection at all to ISIS .
Here is the list of demands
imgur.com...
To be absolutely certain, you can cross reference the hostage name to her facebook account, which seems to verify that she was a hostage. I'm not naming or linking to her besides the photo.
As you can see from the demands, one of the requests was an Isis flag. That is one connection to Isis. Thus debunking the 'no connection' angle.
'The man wants the world to know that Australia is under attack by the Islamic state'
That is his statement (via the hostage).
---
Now, here's the hostage actually speaking and you can hear her asking for an Isis flag.
www.liveleak.com...
well this is an interesting turn of events . this is starting to get strange to me ... it make no sens that this guy (shia) would want anything to do with the ISIS , my apologies for jumping to conclusion.. you have to understand in the wrold of Islam this is like Oil and water ... Shia and sunnie do not mix ... and for century's their had been blood shed between the two ..
now this warrants further investigation ..
i stand corrected
Well, let' be perfectly honest, he was a complex chaotic individual who probably didn't know what he exactly stood for. A self proclaimed Preacher with a penchant for sexually assaulting people.
And if he was ISIS, as you say he was, then can you please rational explain why he did not bring his own flag, he has the foresight to bring a Shahada yet not a ISIS flag.
Arguments like yours really annoy me.
You have obviously lost the debate, you cannot prove he was a ISIS member yet you continue to make the argument.