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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Xeven
Looking back at America, cops used to be a lot more patient when dealing with "disobedience" like Eric Gardner. What was the initial call about? Selling cigarettes on the corner? What a crime…
The crime began when the cops showed up in force. I bet the first cop on scene didn't even approach Eric, just keyed the mic and said we need an army, this dudes big. Then they all approached at once… now the man feels threatened. If one person had approached Eric and say, Now, we got a report you are selling cigarettes and thats a major crime (lol) so no problem take it somewhere else. If I have to come back you are going to get a citation and pay a fine and or a warrant and you don't want that.
Be patient go slow, no mob of threatening police with all their tasers out and batons, surrounding him. Of course he reacted to that…
"Don't touch me!" Now the cops got their excuse to be as impatient as they all seem to be these days.
originally posted by: kosmicjack
More Andy Griffiths, less Barney Fifes....
originally posted by: kosmicjack
More Andy Griffiths, less Barney Fifes....
originally posted by: ItCameFromOuterSpace
originally posted by: kosmicjack
More Andy Griffiths, less Barney Fifes....
Andy used common sense and talking to solve problems.
The problem today is the absolutely black and white/no tolerance way of handling situations, which is dangerous since most things are in the gray.
The problem is also the fact that citations and misdemeanors are all a money racket. That's probably why there is no tolerance -- gotta make that money. Have you ever been in a little trouble and looked at the receipt of your fine and seen all the agencies and people that are getting a cut of your money? Consider getting popped for low level crimes as random forced taxation. There is no desire to fight crime. The cops are there to make money for local and state government by hassling poor people who don't have the money.
originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: Hoosierdaddy71
Pretty sure the vast, vast majority of citizen/LEO interactions are fairly mundane and could benefit more from a touch of humanity and rationale rather than brute force.
originally posted by: Unity_99
Yes, that is what they're supposed to be doing. And alot of what is passing for bad isn't bad when the excessive violence by the bad cops is revealed. But the training to shoot first and ask questions later, is illegal, unlawful and violates all law with precedent in the nations and the constitution.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
can you provide any sort of links or documentation that shows where they're being "trained" that way? like...can you name a police academy that teaches "shoot first, ask questions later" or anything?