Video of Norwegian F-16 HUD cam high mach near miss with a Foxbat

a reply to: Britguy

The F-16 was flying straight, most probably on the left wing of the Su-34 it was keeping an eye on, while the MiG-31 jumped in between them from behind. What you see extended under the Foxhound, is not the landing gear but its air brakes.



Which means the -31's pilot deliberately came between the other two planes and slowed down to stay there, preventing the F-16 to keep/resume its former position.

originally posted by: CiTrus90

originally posted by: aholic
Don't know if any of you missed this. I'm sure we all heard the report but the video has been leaked. Apparently he was doing 500mph when the MiG shot past him at mach 3 at a distance closer than 65 feet. The NATO pilot is heard saying "what the hell!" in Norwegian.

I had heard of the report but had no idea he was pulling that kind of speed. And also reminds me that NATO doesn't really have much that can catch a MiG-31........

For above reference.

2-As far as i can see from the HUD the Norwegian pilot was pulling ~280 knots = ~322 mp/h (which for us on the other side of the pond = ~518 km/h). That's not much of a high speed for a F-16.

Agrees with Number 2.

280 Knots = 518 km/h is not even mach speed or above the speed of sound. Probably the F-16 was on a recon mission or training run, even on a MIGCAP. 24, 500 Feet is not very high altitude, service ceiling should be about 50,000 Feet.
Source: en.wikipedia.org...

A Commercial Airliner like a Boeing 767-300, flying at 37,000 Feet at the speed of 570 knots = 1055.6 KM/H.
Now that's fast, Source: www.flightradar24.com...

a reply to: Promagstyle

It was a QRA fighter launched to intercept the Russian aircraft.

originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
a reply to: aholic

It was the Norwegian F-16 that was trying to close with the Russian mig it was the Norwegian whom was poking the bear.

Classic. I mean, not that I didn't see this coming from you, but classic.

I am so goddamned sick of the trolls on this site I could vomit. If the tables were turned you'd be talking about NATO aggression and how Russia needs to flex its muscles. You are a joke.

originally posted by: Britguy
It looks like the F-16 was the one moving around a bit, while the Mig appeared to be flying straight, with gear down at a slow speed. They don't tool around at speed with the gear down. At least it looks to me like he has landing gear down!

I was going to reply the same thing. I even paused the video several times to try and glimpse if the gear is, indeed, down. And of course it appears to be.

Correct me if I am wrong, but dropping gear at high speed could cause some catastrphic results...broken gear chiefly. So the MiG could not have been traveling at a super high speed.

originally posted by: CiTrus90
a reply to: Britguy

The F-16 was flying straight, most probably on the left wing of the Su-34 it was keeping an eye on, while the MiG-31 jumped in between them from behind. What you see extended under the Foxhound, is not the landing gear but its air brakes.

Which means the -31's pilot deliberately came between the other two planes and slowed down to stay there, preventing the F-16 to keep/resume its former position.

okay that makes sense.

a reply to: kelbtalfenek

It's not the gear. The speed brakes are mounted on the belly ahead of the gear. He was slowing down.

Why did Norwegian ground radars not pick up the Mig-31 closing in on an interceptors 6 O`clock and warn the pilot? I have not read any story elsewhere yet but ground radars monitor what is going on up there and a Mig-31 is nothing close to a stealth aircraft. It looks like the Mig was slowing down to come up close on the Falcons wing, wonder if the pilots exchanged friendly single digit waves?

Fighter Pilots will be Fighter Pilots.

I think its sort of cool the Russians give this sort of freedom to their pilots to do stunts like that. How many could say they wouldn't do the same thing if they had the chance? Its just fun and games until the missiles and rounds start flying.

Maybe the next time a Bear comes lumbering over a pair of Eagles do a fly by?

a reply to: StratosFear

He may have kicked it up suddenly. Russian engines don't do well on long high speed runs.

originally posted by: StratosFear
wonder if the pilots exchanged friendly single digit waves?

Rudeness is illegal in Norway. I think that applies to above Norway as well.

Cool video. CiTrus90 is correct the F-16 is only doing mach 0.66 as it says on the HUD at 24,000ft which is pretty slow. The F-16 can do mach 2.05 clean at 40,000ft and the Mig-31 Foxhound can do mach 2.8 the F-15 Eagle can do mach 2.5 so it's not far off. To get the top speed on these jets they all have to go above 40,000 and be clean so a Mig-31 Foxhound couldn't do it's top speed of mach 2.8 at 24,000ft. The Mig-25 Foxbat is faster at mach 3.2 but the engines overheat and can fail above mach 2.8 so it's not recommended.

originally posted by: StratosFear
Why did Norwegian ground radars not pick up the Mig-31 closing in on an interceptors 6 O`clock and warn the pilot? I have not read any story elsewhere yet but ground radars monitor what is going on up there and a Mig-31 is nothing close to a stealth aircraft. It looks like the Mig was slowing down to come up close on the Falcons wing, wonder if the pilots exchanged friendly single digit waves?

Fighter Pilots will be Fighter Pilots.

I think its sort of cool the Russians give this sort of freedom to their pilots to do stunts like that. How many could say they wouldn't do the same thing if they had the chance? Its just fun and games until the missiles and rounds start flying.

Maybe the next time a Bear comes lumbering over a pair of Eagles do a fly by?

The hud shows an altitude north of 25000 feet. If the F-16 didn't see him, there is no way ground radar would have. He got bounced from up high and fast, and that was the Russian pilots intent.

a reply to: Zaphod58

If that's the case the Hound must have been down low near sea level to avoid radars, hot damn what a ride! Unless EW was involved but I don't think either aircraft have that capability.

originally posted by: Ridhya

originally posted by: StratosFear
wonder if the pilots exchanged friendly single digit waves?

Rudeness is illegal in Norway. I think that applies to above Norway as well.

I did not know that, but with the egos of those pilots you never know what to expect.

a reply to: DeadSeraph

The video shows the F-16 HUD at a max of about 24,550ft barometric and 22,420ft radar (AGL) altitude. The F-16 doesn't go above 25,000ft in the video.

I'm wondering if the SU-34 had something on it that the Russians didn't want the F-16 pilot to get a good look at. It almost appeared as though the MIG was saying "keep back, that's close enough".

This encounter and the one last month were the first time the SU-34 was intercepted close to Norwegian airspace apparently.

theaviationist.com...

a reply to: StratosFear

They generally send two fighters regardless of formation size. The F-16 probably joined up on the -34s, with his wingman behind in overwatch. The Hound between them, and suddenly hitting burner

1-Foxbat is not the correct NATO code name: the MiG-31 is the Foxhound, the MiG-25 is the Foxbat.

Yes my mistake, dangers of posting late at night. Getting my NATO jargon bats 'n hounds all mixed up.

2 -As far as i can see from the HUD the Norwegian pilot was pulling ~280 knots = ~322 mp/h (which for us on the other side of the pond = ~518 km/h). That's not much of a high speed for a F-16.

I'm going by the mach indicator that reads .66 which would be in the neighborhood of 500mph. I wondered the discrepancy myself. Can someone elaborate on this?

People i dont know where you guy's get your information from. But the SU 34 were not escorted by Mig 31s.
When the SU 34s flew along Our borders here in Norway a few weeks ago. The SU 34s were escorting two Russian bombers.

The Norwegian text.

F-16 utenfor Finnmark viser et SU-34 «Fullback» som eskorterer russiske bombefly.

Translated text.

F-16 outside Finnmark shows a SU-34 "Fullback" escorting Russian bombers.

Source: www.an.no...

a reply to: spy66

There were both in this formation. The HUD video clearly shows a MiG-31, and there are multiple sources quoting the Norwegian government that they were Su-34s and MiG-31s. It wouldn't be the first time.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: spy66

There were both in this formation. The HUD video clearly shows a MiG-31, and there are multiple sources quoting the Norwegian government that they were Su-34s and MiG-31s. It wouldn't be the first time.

Hey i live in Norway and i know what Our News i telling us about this event. The Eent With the F-16 in question is from a different event than the once With the SU 34s.

originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: spy66

There were both in this formation. The HUD video clearly shows a MiG-31, and there are multiple sources quoting the Norwegian government that they were Su-34s and MiG-31s. It wouldn't be the first time.

Hey i live in Norway and i know what Our News i telling us about this event. The Eent With the F-16 in question is from a different event than the once With the SU 34s.

The Event With the SU 34 was taken from a very large Groups of 4 Bombers and 4 refulers. There were 10 Aircrafts in the line up. There were no MIG 31s in the line up.