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"American is now a curse word"

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posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 09:36 PM
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Russia's Patience Is Wearing Thin

Having lived in the former USSR before immigrating to the US, Dmitry Orlov has an invaluable perspective on both the US and Russian perspectives, as well as Ukraine.

Dmitry Orlov gives a really good summary about the Ukrainian situation, Russia, America its foreign policy and the dangerous it brings about to the World.

Here are some snippets from the podcast...



The United States is a nation that can't get anything together, can't get anything on, not education, not healthcare, nothing. It's basically sinking into a cesspool of its own making it can't respond at all. And now, it is basically being shown up to be quite incompetent in playing this international game.

There's a difference to how the Russians approach the world and how the Americans approach the world. So, for instance, Americans like to threaten. If you don't do this, then we will do X, Y and Z. That's a typical American behavior.

That's not something that the Russians would ever do because they don't threaten, they just act because if you threaten, then you take away the element of surprise which is very important. The other thing is Americans refuse to talk to their enemies, they won't negotiate with terrorists, they won't do X, Y and Z and can't be reasoned with at all. You can just listen to them and do what they say or they'll bomb you whereas the Russians always talk to their enemies.

But, just basically all kinds of lies and disinformation and slander, which makes the tedious business of diplomacy establishing various links at various levels very difficult, if not impossible. So there's just this incredible level of disgust with their, as they say, partners in the west in Moscow and the result is they're not really eager to talk anymore. They're not very interested in communicating. They're far more interested in acting. So, what we'll probably see is a constant stream of surprises coming from Russia that will be completely unannounced and not predicted by anyone.


Source

Anyone really interested in what is going on regarding the Ukraine, it`s well worth your time to listen to the whole podcast (and you will understand the thread title too):


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posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 10:17 PM
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Russia has to justify its aggression somehow so they blame the other side. They calculate if any bold move will draw an unwanted reaction, then make the move or not. No different from the Cold War era. Nothing new. Prodding defenses, their own diplomatic moves like supporting dictators or illegal unrecognized governments, arms trading, they always have done these things and are no saints compared to anybody else.


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posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien


The United States is a nation that can't get anything together, can't get anything on, not education, not healthcare, nothing. It's basically sinking into a cesspool of its own making

Adult children are in charge.


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posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP


No different from the Cold War era. Nothing new.

Except the Warsaw Pact is dissolved and now NATO is filling that vacuum. Exactly what they promised Russia they would not do.


Even more than two decades later, the dispute refuses to go away. Russian diplomats regularly assert that Washington made just such a promise in exchange for the Soviet troop withdrawal from East Germany -- and then betrayed that promise as NATO added 12 eastern European countries in three subsequent rounds of enlargement.

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NATO has been expanding into Eastern EUrope ever since the Rusiains left. Nothing new,lol.


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posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 10:33 PM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

This man is an engineer and if he is so anti-American move back home comrade. Just because he is former Russian and now a US citizen this gives him more or less insight into world politics......Ya right.


I have a good figure for the comrade......Revolutions happen when the cost of food reaches a certain percentage of disposable income that figure is 40%.


Russia = 30%

US = 10%

This is a fact not a personal truth.


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posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

More Russian Phobia as expected from you.



Russia has to justify its aggression somehow so they blame the other side

Whom has attacked three countries in the last two past years now? was that Russia?




like supporting dictators or illegal unrecognized governments

Oh you mean like America supporting dictators in the Gulf Arab Sunni State and illegal unrecognized government in Ukraine?



posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 10:46 PM
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originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
a reply to: TinfoilTP

More Russian Phobia as expected from you.



Russia has to justify its aggression somehow so they blame the other side

Whom has attacked three countries in the last two past years now? was that Russia?




like supporting dictators or illegal unrecognized governments

Oh you mean like America supporting dictators in the Gulf Arab Sunni State and illegal unrecognized government in Ukraine?


Ya sure whatever you think, turn a blind eye to Russia supporting Assad and taking over Crimea and taking sides in Ukraine with military. Those centrifuges spinning away in Iran have no connections to Russia either in you make believe world too I would imagine.



posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter


illegal unrecognized government in Ukraine?


What part of it is illegal? Yanukovych fled the country and as a result elections had to be held. What part of it is unrecognized? Even Russia recognizes the current Ukrabian leadership.



posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 11:16 PM
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Why is it a double standard? Russia did this or that and now are back to being the bad guys , the US does the same thing /s and it's OK? When the US occupies a country it's for the good of the world. When Russia does it it's an act of aggression. Taxpayer money guarding oil wells and poppy fields is not in the people's best interest when was the last time that our military was actually used to DEFEND our country when was the last time it was used to occupy another country to guard our interest. .it's time we stop playing the world police and just defend what is right here at home.



posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 11:27 PM
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Libbia was doing well Yeah it wasn't perfect but I understand that the people were happy and the country did more for its people than our government would ever do for us. And the US wasn't going to let that happen so they took it over and got rid of the dictator. Seems like the US is turning into something that the US government would go in and change...US tries to dictate to the world stage how to live and the world isn't buying that load of crap anymore. Thank God



posted on Nov, 29 2014 @ 11:40 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter


illegal unrecognized government in Ukraine?


What part of it is illegal? Yanukovych fled the country and as a result elections had to be held. What part of it is unrecognized? Even Russia recognizes the current Ukrabian leadership.


If it was not illegal, then I guess.any of us can go to our nations capitol, chase away the government, and establish ourselves as the legitimate heads of state.

Orlov is right. America told their puppets in Ukraine what do, they did it, and then America could not follow through quick enough because they first had to get their photo ops done and let their media work its magic on the western public. By that time it was too late... Russia had secured its assets.

Russia recognises the current government, not the central banker that was impersonating a head of state.



posted on Nov, 30 2014 @ 04:56 AM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP




Russia has to justify its aggression somehow so they blame the other side.


That is what they do.



posted on Nov, 30 2014 @ 05:12 AM
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a reply to: JHumm




And the US wasn't going to let that happen so they took it over and got rid of the dictator.


The same dictator that ordered the downing of a Pan Am passenger jet over Scotland that killed everybody on board. Yeah we should have let him keep going.



.US tries to dictate to the world stage how to live and the world isn't buying that load of crap anymore.


So now if the world is so tired of the US can you explain why it is that we have people traveling weeks in some cases just to get to the US, and why is that...because America is the place where people see themselves free to achieve whatever it is they want to do.

And why is it when a problem arrives in a country they can't handle who is it they call for help?

What is real funny is the fact these countries that don't like the US have no problem taking our money when the time comes and they need help.



posted on Nov, 30 2014 @ 05:26 AM
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Russia had secured its assets.


What assets the base they had a lease to until 2042?

It was secured long before Putin decided to make up lies so that he could enter and annex Crimea.



Russia recognises the current government, not the central banker that was impersonating a head of state.


Guess what that supposed banker was part of the Yanukovych government and is still part of the new government so where are you getting that he was a central banker?

In fact the same parliament that was in when Yanukovych was president is the same one that appointed an MP as acting president.


The Ukrainian parliament on Sunday voted by an overwhelming margin to temporarily hand over the duties of president to parliament speaker Oleksandr Turchynov until new elections are held on May 25.


www.dw.de...

I guess the true facts don't matter.



posted on Nov, 30 2014 @ 05:40 AM
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a reply to: JHumm




When the US occupies a country it's for the good of the world.


And yet we don't annex sovereign countries under the guise of helping ethnic Americans do we?



posted on Nov, 30 2014 @ 05:43 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

"American is now a curse word"


So was Yankee once upon a time.



Signed "American"



posted on Nov, 30 2014 @ 06:02 AM
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a reply to: SLAYER69




Signed "American"





posted on Nov, 30 2014 @ 06:24 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

I say, ship him back to Russia.
I wonder what he has to say about his former homeland?



posted on Nov, 30 2014 @ 06:40 AM
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a reply to: SubTruth

Where does he say he`s anti-American, he just gives an analysis of what has happened and what the situation is today. Besides he also states he`s technically an Ukrainian because his dad was born Kiev (Ukraine).

If you had cared to listen to the podcast you also would know that the thread title "American is now a curse word" is what a lot of Russians now are saying because of the actions of America and not his personal opinion.

So anyone who simply tells what has happened and how the situation is today regarding the Ukraine is anti-American?

Anyone interested as to why the focus needs to stay on "Russia is bad," "we can`t have the focus shifting towards the Ukraine"...

Lin k


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posted on Nov, 30 2014 @ 07:21 AM
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Its interesting how quick Americans are against free speech and deporting people for expressing a opinion.



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