Heavy 'Chemspraying' Today In The Ozarks

a reply to: GodEmperor

I did not posit that 'chemtrails' are intended to kill people.

And where did I say you did?

I was replying to a comment made that if you have been around this forum long enough it has been said that they are for population control.

So now I will ask you as I have others...

How is it that chemtrails are supposed to be real when not one chemtrail pusher has ever gone up and retrieved a sample of one when it gets sprayed?

The fact that it hasn't been done shows that the chemtrail pushers don't actually want to know the truth.

a reply to: Phage

The net effect is one of warming, not cooling. They trap heat.

Why is that so hard to understand for chemtrail believers that say they are outside looking up and that so many don't bother to look up anymore or enough to realize whats going on?


I think those people don't look up as if they did and saw a clear night after a hot day and cloudy night after a hot day would find that cloudy night is quite a bit warmer than the clearer night, actually best is in winter when a night might be bearable if its cloudy but if its clear the night gets a lot colder than it would if there were clouds to trap whatever heat there was during the day from leaving.

Yeah all you need to do is look up for some things and you might work out why thing work the way they work,

however chemtrails cant be identified as such by sight alone if they exist, anyone saying so needs to explain where they received their bionic eyes with chemical analysis abilities done by sight alone.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

I was just posting a scathing reply that got the "not this time, buddy"........disappeared from my screen......TMI that is proof..... it included the post Katrina admitting by officials they were steering Katrina.....


imagine pre-dawn.....an area 70 miles by 90 miles getting completely covered by some object doing two circles.....and looked like a snail shell.....only totally filled in.....that was sat view near London......then 90 miles off the Oregon coast...wider circles in the pre-dawn.......you get the idea......


the reason for whole cirrus cloud layers propagated by jets is condensation nucleii.....when the air is right, it's true that a jet will add particles that will act as condensation nucleii

originally posted by: GBP/JPY
a reply to: InhaleExhale

I was just posting a scathing reply that got the "not this time, buddy"........disappeared from my screen......TMI that is proof..... it included the post Katrina admitting by officials they were steering Katrina.....

imagine pre-dawn.....an area 70 miles by 90 miles getting completely covered by some object doing two circles.....and looked like a snail shell.....only totally filled in.....that was sat view near London......then 90 miles off the Oregon coast...wider circles in the pre-dawn.......you get the idea......

the reason for whole cirrus cloud layers propagated by jets is condensation nucleii.....when the air is right, it's true that a jet will add particles that will act as condensation nucleii

Sorry have the chemtrails effected you that badly or is it me?

Clarification please?

I have no idea what you are saying here, there was a few persistent contrails over Melbourne over the weekend, who knows it could have been a spraying operation to infect me with dumb because I don't understand what you are saying in that post replying to me.

a reply to: GBP/JPY

I was just posting a scathing reply that got the "not this time, buddy"........disappeared from my screen......TMI that is proof..... it included the post Katrina admitting by officials they were steering Katrina.....

And let me guess they were steering it with HAARP?

imagine pre-dawn.....an area 70 miles by 90 miles getting completely covered by some object doing two circles.....and looked like a snail shell.....only totally filled in.....that was sat view near London......then 90 miles off the Oregon coast...wider circles in the pre-dawn.......you get the idea......

And you say your a pilot, and yet you don't know a holding pattern when you see one...seems awfully odd IMO.

And please repost whatever it is you think you have that shows they admitted to steering a hurricane, because I think you may be making it up. But that is just my opinion.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

They are real because you can see them.

Regardless of composition, even water is a chemical, so the term chemtrail is a proper label.

I doubt most people interested in finding out what the composition of the trails are, have the resources to collect any samples.

a reply to: Phage

Sigh...

Radiation coming in from space is reduced, and reflected back. Radiation leaving earth, especially at night, is reflected back to the earth.

If these trails were not sprayed on a regular and massive scale, we would see warmer days and colder nights.

Water is a chemical compound, is it not? So what is the problem with calling contrails, 'chemtrails'? We could get into a discussion about how many people DiHydrogen Monoxide kills every year if you like.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

The chemical composition is of not really important.

May I ask, are you a climate change denier? Are you saying that man's activity, especially the one NASA calls the most visible anthropomorphic weather phenomenon, has not impact on climate?

Artificially inducing cloud formations has no effect on solar radiation reaching, and leaving the earth? Empirical evidence is proof enough, and even if it were simply water condensation from jet fuel, it was due to man's activities they were created, which alters climate.

a reply to: GodEmperor

I doubt most people interested in finding out what the composition of the trails are, have the resources to collect any samples.

And yet Michael Murphy spent 50000 dollars to make a movie called What In The World Are THey Spraying and didn't use one red cent to actually have one tested...BTW there is a company that has a plane just for that as they test contrails all the time.

So yes the resources were out there he just didn't want to actually find the truth as that would impede his money train.

a reply to: GodEmperor

The chemical composition is of not really important.

Yes it is if your going to say that persistent contrails contain something other than what they do.

May I ask, are you a climate change denier? Are you saying that man's activity, especially the one NASA calls the most visible anthropomorphic weather phenomenon, has not impact on climate?

See now your getting into something totally different with climate change, but what I think about it isn't relevant to the topic.

You learned a new word with anthropomorphic didn't you because you seem to want to use it alot.

Artificially inducing cloud formations has no effect on solar radiation reaching, and leaving the earth? Empirical evidence is proof enough, and even if it were simply water condensation from jet fuel, it was due to man's activities they were created, which alters climate.

And nobody said they didn't, but you made the claim that they are spraying chemtrails...where is your proof they exist?

As I said before why hasn't someone taken the time to go up and sample one, as that would end the debate right there but they haven't because it will do just what I said end the chemtrail debate because it will show proof they don't actually exist.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: GodEmperor

I doubt most people interested in finding out what the composition of the trails are, have the resources to collect any samples.

And yet Michael Murphy spent 50000 dollars to make a movie called What In The World Are THey Spraying and didn't use one red cent to actually have one tested...BTW there is a company that has a plane just for that as they test contrails all the time.

So yes the resources were out there he just didn't want to actually find the truth as that would impede his money train.

And lets not forget the 2.5 million that was being raised for the latest film which appears to have gone astray...

They are just air force je3ts...dont worry so much...keep calm and may the force be with you...

originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: GodEmperor

I doubt most people interested in finding out what the composition of the trails are, have the resources to collect any samples.

And yet Michael Murphy spent 50000 dollars to make a movie called What In The World Are THey Spraying and didn't use one red cent to actually have one tested...BTW there is a company that has a plane just for that as they test contrails all the time.

So yes the resources were out there he just didn't want to actually find the truth as that would impede his money train.

And lets not forget the 2.5 million that was being raised for the latest film which appears to have gone astray...

Do you have a source for that $ figure? If so, whomever raised it has no excuses with testing.

a reply to: network dude

Some interesting comments in this video @ around 10:55, 15:15 and 25:45

a reply to: mrthumpy

Wow, It seems the money corrupted as it tends to do. I was not aware of the battle between Dane Wiggington and Michael J. Murphy.

The two bigger donation accepters fighting over top dog position. How pathetic. I guess this explains why they are all deathly afraid of the mid air sample. An end to the gravy train.

a reply to: network dude

Wow, It seems the money corrupted as it tends to do. I was not aware of the battle between Dane Wiggington and Michael J. Murphy.

I say we put them in the cage and let them go at it, he who wins is the new chemtrail guru.

contrails, formed by humidity and pressure, they freeze when it's cold enough, ie at the Antarctic or at high altitude anywhere.

They can come from the engines, or they can be caused where the pressure is very low, such as over a wing like here, at Manchester Airport a few weeks ago when humidity was 95% at ground level.



You can also see the effect, plus trails streaming from the winglets, on this A330 from the same day



No extra chemicals required.

Further to my last post, here is another example of the way water is condensed out of thin air without chemicals, though the principle is exactly the same as the images above, and the contrails that everyone gets so het up about.

in this image the suction of the huge front fans on this A330's Trent engines is what is causing the low pressure and as a result a vapour cloud can be seen in front of both intakes.



I took this image last Monday, following heavy overnight rain and the wheels can be seen to be kicking up water from the ground, the air was still extremely humid.