TPP : How America is about to sell its sovereignty to create a concrete NWO

a reply to: Asktheanimals

You sure it's not just NAFTA 2.0 ? . That's what they're selling it as.

I was looking at th map Rickymouse post....


I had a few questions and it came to me...

They will need s currency to trade in right?

a reply to: xuenchen

I'm not sure his dad likes or trusts him that much. Ron will say basically supportive things about Rand, but I can't feel his heart in it. He ain't his dad, I'm pretty sure of that.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Let me put it this way:

If TPP passes and become a lawful treaty I will personally consider this an act of war on the American people.

Economic Insurrection is in my mind again.

Somebody might get a bright idea to issue long term bonds that "compete" with U.S. Treasury securities.

Hmmm.

a reply to: xuenchen

Ask the rothschilds.,.


Creating a currency is the way to go. If you create the currency it's your everyone has to borrow from you.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

"If TPP passes and become a lawful treaty I will personally consider this an act of war on the American people. "

If it is what it seems it is an act of war. That's why it's being kept so quiet. People would flip out if they knew the truth. Here is the text and video of Senator Elizabeth Warren subtly saying exactly that. God I love her.



"Thank you Mr. President.

I rise today to talk about trade agreements and the impact they have on our economy. Trade agreements affect access to foreign markets and our level of imports and exports. They also affect a wide variety of public policy issues - everything from wages, jobs, the environment, and the Internet -- to monetary policy, pharmaceuticals, and financial services.

Many people are deeply interested in tracking the trajectory of trade negotiations, but if they do not have reasonable access to see the terms of the agreements under negotiation, then they can't have real input. Without transparency, the benefits from an open marketplaces of ideas are reduced enormously.

I am deeply concerned about the transparency record of the US Trade Representative and with one ongoing trade agreement in particular -- the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
 
For months, the Trade Representative who negotiates on our behalf has been unwilling to provide any public access to the composite bracketed text relating to the negotiations. The composite bracketed text includes proposed language from the United States and also other countries, and it serves as the focal point for negotiations. The Trade Representative has allowed Members of Congress to access the text, and I appreciate that. But that is no substitute for public transparency.

I have heard the argument that transparency would undermine the Trade Representative's policy to complete the trade agreement because public opposition would be significant. In other words, if people knew what was going on, they would stop it. This argument is exactly backwards. If transparency would lead to widespread public opposition to a trade agreement, then that trade agreement should not be the policy of the United States.

I believe in transparency and democracy, and I think the U.S. Trade Representative should too.

I asked the President's nominee to be Trade Representative -- Michael Froman - three questions: First, would he commit to releasing the composite bracketed text? Or second, if not, would he commit to releasing just a scrubbed version of the bracketed text that made anonymous which country proposed which provision. (Note: Even the Bush Administration put out the scrubbed version during negotiations around the Free Trade Area of the Americas agreement.)

Third, I asked Mr. Froman if he would provide more transparency behind what information is made to the trade office's outside advisors. Currently, there are about 600 outside advisors that have access to sensitive information, and the roster includes a wide diversity of industry representatives and some labor and NGO representatives too. But there is no transparency around who gets what information and whether they all see the same things, and I think that's a real problem.
 
Mr. Froman's response was clear: No, no, no. He will not commit to make this information available so the public can track what is going on.

I am voting against Mr. Froman's nomination later today because I believe we need a new direction from the Trade Representative -- A direction that prioritizes transparency and public debate. The American people have the right to know more about the negotiations that will have dramatic impact on the future of the American economy. And that will have a dramatic impact on our working men and women, on the environment, on the Internet.

We should have a serious conversation about our trade policies, because these issues matter. But it all starts with transparency from the U.S. Trade Representative.

Thank you, Mr. President."

www.warren.senate.gov...

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: xuenchen

Ask the rothschilds.,.


Creating a currency is the way to go. If you create the currency it's your everyone has to borrow from you.

They are experts of debt creation and manipulation.

a reply to: tavi45

All these acts and agreements are what's making this happen.

They are pushing the agenda through hard.

What can I actually do about any of this?

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

What can one actually do about anything? If I told you that nuclear war was happening next Thursday what would you do?

The only thing I've learned in my time here is there are no easy answers to anything important.

I'll give suggestions anyways. You could work on becoming self sufficient where you are now. You could move somewhere remote and do the same. You could spread the word. You could protest. You could send a letter to your senators, representatives, governor etc. You could start some sort of organization. You could tell your friends and family and ask them for advice. You could find religion or pray if you have one already.

You could also do nothing.

Bottom line is you won't find any answers on what to do. It's your job to decide what you are going to do. That's not just true about this but about everything in life.

We got to this point because people stop asking themselves what they should do and expected others to decide for us.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: xuenchen

I don't trust paul. Can't really out my finger on it but for some reason I just don't.

Ron Paul is not to be trusted. His observation may be accurate, but he is for global gold-backed currency. There is no sovreignty with a global currency. He's also instrumental as an election spoiler. I think he's just controlled opposition, a release for angry patriot types.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
we will be OWNED by international corporations

You already are.

The time to water the tree of freedom has come and gone.

a reply to: daskakik

Correct. The tree of freedom is dying. It's the job of humanity, not just Americans to grow a new tree. Hopefully this tree is not an ugly one.

a reply to: tavi45



I hope that helps!

a reply to: onequestion

Already happening apparently, look up Amero coins or minted Amero coins, they are dated 2007 interestingly enough...

Amero Coins Links

Links at the site below also show paper currency.



Check out image links near the top of the article.

You know what, I was scared at first that this will pass. But I'm honestly done living in fear and control of the PTB. I have seen the entire playbook and this is nearing the final inception of the NWO. You know what I feel now? I hope it passes so people will finally wake up, and let me tell you, people are sick of the elites raping of humanity. If this passes we can finally stand together and put this group down like a rabbid dog.
Go ahead and pass it you greedy warmongering scum, make my #ing day.

originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: WakeUpBeer

What can one actually do about anything? If I told you that nuclear war was happening next Thursday what would you do?

If I believed it to be true? I would probably yell at all the people I'd tried to warn about such things for not listening. I would be less of a coward about telling people how I truly feel about them. I'd crack open a beer or enjoy something a little more organic, to attempt (but still fail) to drown out the fear and impending doom.

The only thing I've learned in my time here is there are no easy answers to anything important.

Totally agree.

You could work on becoming self sufficient where you are now. You could move somewhere remote and do the same.

Not possible in my current situation unfortunately.

You could spread the word.

Been there, done that. Nobody cares, for the most part.

You could protest.

I will never join a protest, I've seen how those things go. The evil we face already knows how to deal with protests. There really is no point to that. In my opinion. The enemy is full of cunning and guile. Spooks are a dime a dozen.

You could send a letter to your senators, representatives, governor etc.

There was one point in my life where I was excited to vote. However, I was not old enough. Thankfully the candidate I was rooting for won. His name was George W. Bush Junior. All that was before 9/11 triggered an interest in conspiracy theories and ultimately lead me to this 100% lack of trust in the system.

You could start some sort of organization.

I'm not a leader and besides, there are numerous organizations in existence. How they actually effect the problem is in question (in my mind).

You could tell your friends and family and ask them for advice.

"You shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet" are the responses I tend to get. Or, "What can we do about it?"

You could find religion or pray if you have one already.

I don't believe in praying to mythological figures. I spent sixteen years of my life doing that to no avail. Maybe I wasn't a "real Christian" or maybe I just didn't swallow the lies hook line and sinker. Besides, as far as that goes, "It's part of God's plan". Pffft.

You could also do nothing.

I'm not proud to admit it but that's exactly what I've done. What can I do? No offense to your honest response to my post, but I don't feel there were any real answers there. At least on a level beyond my personal well being. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what you had to say. Think about it though.. are any of those solutions problem solvers?

I could move out to the middle of nowhere, but eventually they would come to claim me. I could write my congressman but if he proves to be a thorn in their side, he will be dealt with. I could warn my friends and family but they don't really believe the scope of it all. If they did realize the scope of it all, then they end up in the same boat as me.

I want to get rid of this problem once and for all. I don't want to find personal solutions. I don't want a guy like me 100 years from now asking why I didn't do jack. Just like I ask myself why the guys 100 years ago didn't do jack about the Federal Reserve Act, for example.

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em?

Like you said, there are no easy answers. Idk what else there is for me to do but wait for the inevitable. And enjoy what I enjoy, while it lasts.

So let them play dark horse. Well see how it turns out for them in the mid to long terms. This will just lead to more chaos for them. King to C1 (Queenside castle)...

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

This could have been written by me. It is the exact feeling I have at the moment, the only difference being I'm still holding out 10% hope that it's never going to happen. Maybe that's the 10% keeping all of us on our collective asses.

originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: Asktheanimals

You sure it's not just NAFTA 2.0 ?

. That's what they're selling it as.

This is more like the US becoming the latest province of China in every tangible way - labor laws, environmental laws, anti-free speech (no criticizing foreign corporations - bye bye internet), allowing China to build factories here and pay their employees Chinese wages, owning our natural resources and guarding them with Chinese troops, allowing foreign corporations to sue the US for "lost profits" for any number of circumstances and on and on and on.

It's giving China everything in lieu of our debt to them.
The NWO is Corporate Feudalism 1.0