Oakley, MI population-290. Police-100+. Secrets? Many...

a reply to: chiefsmom

You may well be right, but suppose such "secret police" were in other areas also, this is how a secret police operates. Since they are not in that actual area. There could be operations like that spread throughout small towns across the nation and the people within those areas led to believe just as you do.

How do you create a secret police force and keep it trained but secret until it is ready to take over?

Infiltration[edit]
Full-time officers were posted to all major industrial plants (the extensiveness of any surveillance largely depended on how valuable a product was to the economy)[13] and one tenant in every apartment building was designated as a watchdog reporting to an area representative of the Volkspolizei (Vopo).[17] Spies reported every relative or friend who stayed the night at another's apartment.[17] Tiny holes were drilled in apartment and hotel room walls through which Stasi agents filmed citizens with special video cameras.[17] Schools, universities, and hospitals were extensively infiltrated.[17]

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Just a thought.

a reply to: Char-Lee
Well, yes, that is a scary thought. And I guess anything is possible.

I'm just basing my response on the people I know that live there and a smaller situation that happened right here in town.
We had a fire department. The fire chief got voted out. He threw a hissy fit. He got a grant of some sort, got backing from his buddies. Other idiot buddies got another fire station put on the ballot. Another guy saw this going on, and did the same thing.

Our small town, that never had a problem with the one station. Now has three. That I get to pay taxes on.
So I never underestimate the combination of stupid people, power trips and cash.

a reply to: theyknowwhoyouare
Could this all be for the Government Equipment their giving away ?
Maybe the more Cops The More Goodies.
Just a thought

originally posted by: wulff

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: RifRAAF
Wouldnt a police force have a .gov tld? they do here in Australia.

The police are different in the USA, you have federal police, state police, county police, Municipal police, Sheriffs office.... whilst in Australia we only have federal police and state police.

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awsome ...were you going anywhere with that ? or were you just pointing out the obvious ?

It may not be obvious to someone that lives in another country, what is the point you are trying to make? How to be a troll while giving someone leaving a legit answer a hard time?

your right i sometimes give people way too much credit

I think I went off on a rant about this before on ATS. Michigan has three types of local Government: Townships, Villages, and Cities. If you want decent rule-of-law Government and low taxes, you live in a Township. If you can't help it, you live in a City(high taxes with little control of Government, but at least some control; I.E. Detroit). By no means should you ever live or own property in a Michigan Village. Michigan Villages have High Taxes, and almost no legal controls on local Government. The "Village" was a bad Irish "Home Rule" concept brought over by immigrants. The talking points provided by the Lobby groups that benefit economically from these Villages state that the form of government provides "Flexibility and Autonomy in local Government". This is just Double Speak for legalized municipal graft and corruption.
One Judge called Michigan Villages "Michigan's Bastard form of local Government". Most would be considered "Racketeering and Influenced Corrupt Organizations" under Federal Law if they were not protected by the 10th amendment, as "States rights". Most of the lofty Grosse Pointes were once Villages, but have either become Cities, or merged, or dis-incorporated.
As far as all these "Reserve Police"? They get Badges: -Licenses to lawfully drink and drive under the "Blue code", and they get access to Automatic weapons, and special status to carry concealed firearms in places that normal people that posses CCW licenses cannot carry weapons. An article on this topic stated that several major "Music Stars" are on this list of Reserve Officers (that they want to get through FOIA).
It would be best for Michigan to change State law and get rid of these noxious Villages(default to a Township, or vote to become a City). I don't think that will happen anytime soon, as these Villages have the public fisc to promote their existence, and the average person is ignorant to the facts of how bad they are.

a reply to: EHowardHuntClub

Ding ding ding. This is not uncommon practice at all.

I've never heard of Oakley but I did a quick mapquest and found out I'm only 1 hour away from there...Maybe I should go investigate

originally posted by: Honestabe28
I've never heard of Oakley but I did a quick mapquest and found out I'm only 1 hour away from there...Maybe I should go investigate

Be on the look out for under ground passageways and men with ear pieces. Watch the skies too. They probably know you're coming now.

a reply to: theyknowwhoyouare>>> It sounds like its a militia group or private sportsmens organization that is using a loophole to give its ,members access to hardware and firearms they wouldn't otherwise be able to get. Fully automatic assault weapons, combat gear, body armor, etc.

If you click the location link on their site and do a Google street view on South Main Street Oakley it looks like the Google car is being followed by an white unmarked cruiser. Not 100% though as they don't get too close to the Google car.

Hmm.. someone doesn't want pictures being taken.
Anyone else notice that?

maybe names can be attached to 'known' isis assets?

wtf use a bogeyman asset to protect an asset?

This is really intriguing stuff - I'm going with Mexican Cartels working in concert with the American Gov to protect their interests on that side of the border.


Regardless its a cool movie premise. A modern Spaghetti Western.

Man...My little town has more people and can't get a cop..Thee is no local police at all. Well, we do have a constable. He's 85 and does sit in his car an watch the local drug store close in case a band of merry men want to liberate some opiates. We have to call the state police if we want a cop. Those guys are a good bit away so most people just take care of things themselves then call police to clean the mess up later. The city counsel sold the one police car they had to the fire dept.
...100 cops eh? But they are still unseen. Don't know what would be more scary...

originally posted by: loveguy
maybe names can be attached to 'known' isis assets?

wtf use a bogeyman asset to protect an asset?

Well, maybe they're CIA, disguised as Police, who are in fact over in Iraq and Syria posing as ISIS fighters.

Man, that would be a pretty deep rabbit hole

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: RifRAAF
Wouldnt a police force have a .gov tld? they do here in Australia.

The police are different in the USA, you have federal police, state police, county police, Municipal police, Sheriffs office.... whilst in Australia we only have federal police and state police.

en.wikipedia.org...

Actually law enforcement in Australia is more complex then simply state and federal police.
There is a transit police within the police.
There is also a "police security" type service with most departments as well. Basically they are security officers who rank between regular security and police. Many people who want to join the Police force use such police security services as a stepping stone, or are directed to that as a temporary measure until they meet all requirements.

We also have sheriffs in Australia as well as bailiffs who are technically also part of law enforcement, although there roles differ from traditional police.
Sheriffs are even responsible for enforcing arrest warrants among other things.

Even your local council has people who are technically law enforcement officers, who go around and issue you parking fines, and enforce by-laws and what not regarding a range of things, such as dog registration, water usage, and so on.

Militia? a reply to: theyknowwhoyouare

a reply to: Meldionne1

More likely that they were all the Chief's buddies and were made reserve officers so they could get steep discounts on guns and gear. Glock that would cost you and me around $500 only costs a LEO $300.

At least that is my guess, there is a quote in the article that the reservists help the village out with expenses. I'd kick in a $100 to get a $200 discount on a pistol if I was in the market for one.

originally posted by: theyknowwhoyouare
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Oakley has 290 residents. They also have over 100 police, for some reason. Those police are also, more or less entirely anonymous. Who those police are or what they are doing is a mystery, even to the village trustees, who say they don’t even have a proper list of their own of who all these people are, though they have been assured by the police chief that many of them have never even been to Oakley, and likely never will.
There’ve been a series of lawsuits in recent years aiming to find out exactly that, leading the village to shut the police force down last month. Here’s where it gets crazy. The village council shut the police down for not having any insurance, because they’re constantly getting sued. Days later, the police showed up again, announcing they’d bought their own insurance and didn’t need the village’s permission to continue to operate. They fund themselves through secret donations from secret benefactors. Weird, right? Last week, after village council members filed a lawsuit, a judge finally ordered the police to shut down again. Days later, the council voted to finally respond to years of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests and release the names of all those secret police. The list has yet to be released, and the council itself is waiting on the police chief to do that, since they don’t have any complete lists.
Today, letters showed up at the doors of the council members’ houses, on the letterhead of a high profile Detroit lawyer. The letters demanded that they recind the decision and stop the release of the FOIA documents, insisting that the police had been promised anonymity, and claiming that ISIS, yes that ISIS, was a potential threat to the police if their names were made public. The letter went on to warn that because everyone knows ISIS is a thing, and knows ISIS would want to get ahold of Oakley police, releasing their names would be a malicious act, one for which punitive damages could be awards.

This is so weird. I wonder whats going on over there. I'm guessing they have some secret underground facility or the likes. Does anyone have an idea of what could be happening in Oakley Michigan?

I like the idea of WPP (witness protection program) but I'm not sure if so many would be grouped through a front like that and as cops. I don't know even if in WPP you get a gun but is imagine you do.

My immediate thought was Emergant Biotech, our nations source for Anthrax vaccine. Was established in Lansing 32 miles away in 1998. I think there are a lot of plants in Oakley. One could be Emergant's.

Oakley Industries
Oakley Sub
Fiasco Industries

originally posted by: Dawgishly
a reply to: Meldionne1

More likely that they were all the Chief's buddies and were made reserve officers so they could get steep discounts on guns and gear. Glock that would cost you and me around $500 only costs a LEO $300.

At least that is my guess, there is a quote in the article that the reservists help the village out with expenses. I'd kick in a $100 to get a $200 discount on a pistol if I was in the market for one.

I know here in Chicago you can't buy certain items like police lights, traffic light changers, uniforms ect without being a police officer. I wonder if this club gives them the right to buy this stuff.

I also wonder if this "badge" allows them to do stuff like pull credit reports and other sensitive info for "investigative" purposes.

Plus just being able to flash some type of badge and legally call yourself a cop might allow you to get away with a lot.

a reply to: theyknowwhoyouare

Just came across the house sales for the area which surprised me, maybe its different in the US than uk but for such as small town they have quite a lot of house sales per year.

2009: 21
2010: 30
2011: 15
2012: 35
2013: 18
2014 in 6 months: 15

Is that normal for a place that has approx. 110 houses? That quite a large percentage of house sales.