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Originally posted by elaine
You really think these prisoners would volunteer for medical
research? They'd have to get something out of it for themselves.
Some kind of reward. What would that be?
I doubt you'd have many takers. They'd probably have to be
forced. And then that would cause an outcry from the public
about inhumane treatment of prisoners.
Originally posted by instar
Sorry folk, I wasnt talking of anything voluntary whatsover! Im talking lifers in for murder and the like. These scum owe society. Why on earth would we pay them? we already pay for their upkeep despite a bullet being cheaper. Afterall, they sit for years and rot on deathrow, why not give something tangible to society, not just their absence from it? And if the "research is terminal, well so be it, their on death row anyway.
But if you want to talk voluntary, i guess that could work with non painful drug test perhaps, for those in for fraud or similar non violent crimes. but again, they are supposed to be paying, not us.
[edit on 9-12-2004 by instar]
Originally posted by sinatracementshoes
Dude the Onion is not a good newspaper to site if you are proposing for medical experimentation on prisioners.
but it had me lauging so hard i fell of the chair.
At some point we will have working models of the human system and can chuck animal testing out the window but we are not there yet and not even close actually.
We humans also tend to like cute furry critters and not slimy scary ones. We do not like hurting the cute ones but we enslave cats and dogs because we think they are cute and nice to have around. The hypocrisy thing also climbs into it with some that complain - probably have nice leather seats in their cars and shoes and belts of leather but have no problem taking out a fly, spider or roach....
Point is MOST animal research IS unnecessary.
Animal testing that has really benefited mankind is a very small part of the whole picture.
Yes a holy grail is to be able to create an accurate chemical interaction model for the whole human body and all the various tissues and organs. It's being worked on from a number of fronts - genome, chemistry, biology, physics. It will happen, but unlikely in our lifetimes - until then you have to test on something - or are you willing to have a reduced lifespan and higher mortality rates??
Originally posted by instar
....scum on death row are far more expensive to the taxpayer, how much does it cost to keep these useless human scum alive and fed each year?