Can I have a layman's first grader explanation of 'single payer' healthcare please?

originally posted by: Hefficide

And you'll notice that some of those pesky countries with socialized medicine ( and school, and free internet, and so on ) also have a higher GDP than the US.

The US could easily pay for every citizen's health care, but:

- we have to spend more on our military than the rest of the world combined.
- we have to pay the interest on the debt caused by over a decade of BS wars.
- we have to spend a ton of money for the NSA to spy on everyone in the world.
- we have to give money to other countries because they are our "friends."
- we have to bail out banks, insurance companies, auto makers, and other businesses that are "too big to fail."

You know, priorities.

The health care of the American people is way down on the priority list of the American government.
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Has anybody run the numbers for "single-payer" here in the U.S. ?

They take 1.45% from earnings matched by 1.45% from employers (and self employed) = 2.90% for Medicare.

What would it take to cover "everybody" ?

Ask Sweden, they have an individual maximum of 57% taxes.





And before you jump on that number - the US has a 55.9% max - not including incurred taxation ( sales, luxury, sin ).

Even those pesky commies in China cap out at 45% max.

So I ask you - who's zoomin' who?

a reply to: Hefficide

Some genuine research might surprise you.

I'll wait for logical answers.

It's not as bad as many think.

The comparison to start with would be how many people with Medicare vs population.

I'll see if somebody actually sees it.

Simple - overly simple but if you live in the US - think of Medicare for all. We'd (us and our employers) would pay into the system throughout our lives and we'd be covered throughout out lives for a fraction of the cost of private health care.

One pot, one payer to providers of actual services not 'investors' or 'owners'.

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

Well even if they pretend to care, they are just commie socialist nanny style gov that are spitting on the founding fathers graves as they turn over in their grave.
Protecting American lives can only be done with military force, anything else is not the American way.

a reply to: sarra1833

Single payer is the dismantling of all insurance companies and the government is the "single payer" of insurance claims. Rather than buy insurance everyone would simply be insured, payed for through tax dollars.

originally posted by: VictorVonDoom

originally posted by: Hefficide

And you'll notice that some of those pesky countries with socialized medicine ( and school, and free internet, and so on ) also have a higher GDP than the US.

The US could easily pay for every citizen's health care, but:

- we have to spend more on our military than the rest of the world combined.
- we have to pay the interest on the debt caused by over a decade of BS wars.
- we have to spend a ton of money for the NSA to spy on everyone in the world.
- we have to give money to other countries because they are our "friends."
- we have to bail out banks, insurance companies, auto makers, and other businesses that are "too big to fail."

You know, priorities.

The health care of the American people is way down on the priority list of the American government.
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Actually almost all our money goes to social/entitlement programs, 60% of the budget. Sorry to bust your ill-informed ideas though.

a reply to: bkfd54

I pay for my own insurances and have had the foresight to ensure I won't require Medicare or Medicade. Unfortunately, we are mandated to pay into the Medicare Medicade pool otherwise I wouldn't be.