US military planes arrive at epicenter of Ebola

MONROVIA, Liberia (AP) — Six U.S. military planes arrived in the Ebola hot zone Thursday with more Marines, as West Africa's leaders pleaded for the world's help...

US military planes arrive at epicenter of Ebola

How can the Marines fight Ebola and win? Let's jump into a burning building and try to put it out wearing shorts, t-shirt and a bucket of water.

Everyone questions sending in military to such a mission. What if this is training for handling an outbreak in the US?

So who want to start taking bets as to how many of these 300 poor souls will be infected during their stay.

First thing they did was take the soldiers temperature......THEY JUST GOT THERE

but with this minimal contact, some of them could already have cought it....

I am not hoping for this btw, but dammit....its almost inevitable

This scares the beejeebers out me......
Right send in the grunts....THEY for sure have the nessessary skill set..........
What are they going to do but bring the contagion back home?
Ever hear of Gulf war Syndrome?
Depleted Uranium munitions?
This will not work out well......
Next question....have they shoved these poor dupes full of experimental "vaccines" that we will hear horror stories about ten years from now.....?
No.....wrong move I think.....perhaps more aimed at "protecting their bio lab and resource bases there.....
Should be thousand of uninfected Africans being trained to deal with just strictly Ebola,

originally posted by: stirling
This scares the beejeebers out me......
Right send in the grunts....THEY for sure have the nessessary skill set..........
What are they going to do but bring the contagion back home?
Ever hear of Gulf war Syndrome?
Depleted Uranium munitions?
This will not work out well......
Next question....have they shoved these poor dupes full of experimental "vaccines" that we will hear horror stories about ten years from now.....?
No.....wrong move I think.....perhaps more aimed at "protecting their bio lab and resource bases there.....
Should be thousand of uninfected Africans being trained to deal with just strictly Ebola,

Right on point. Guys are being sent who have no medical training whatsoever. It's a very scary situation.

I don't understand why the military is going? If the goal is to help SICK people, shouldn't medical professionals be sent? I mean, I'm pretty sure you can't shoot Ebola out of someone/a region...

a reply to: Avoiceinthewilderness

Nothing good will come of this.

These kids get blown up by cowardly hidden munitions and now they have to worry about ... never mind ... enough said.

originally posted by: Avoiceinthewilderness

MONROVIA, Liberia (AP) — Six U.S. military planes arrived in the Ebola hot zone Thursday with more Marines, as West Africa's leaders pleaded for the world's help...

US military planes arrive at epicenter of Ebola

How can the Marines fight Ebola and win? Let's jump into a burning building and try to put it out wearing shorts, t-shirt and a bucket of water.

Everyone questions sending in military to such a mission. What if this is training for handling an outbreak in the US?

Let me guess....They will be coming home afterwards without being tested? This situation is scary!!

a reply to: Avoiceinthewilderness

How much is a human life worth? At least $150US per month, according to the Pentagon.

Ebola Pay

I am probably going to surprise everyone when. Say that this is a step in the right direction:

Key in USARAF's mission is the establishment of a 25-bed clinic for aid workers.

"The construction of a 25-bed expeditionary clinic for aid workers, multiple Ebola treatment units and a facility for training Liberia medical health workers is under way. As I speak, successive teams are spread throughout Liberia conducting site surveys and have begun construction already," Williams said.

"With the arrival of the hospital over the weekend, we will continue to expand our efforts to accomplish our mission," he said. "This weekend also saw the arrival of two mobile testing labs. They're bound for the Island Clinic and Bong County [Ebola treatment units]. These labs are a huge step in the fight against this disease. I cannot overemphasize the importance of our mission and we're glad to be on the team," Williams said.

According to information provided by the U.S. Embassy in Monrovia, the clinic and lab equipment delivered by U.S. Air Force C-17 aircraft is bound for two locations in Liberia, and is expected to be operational this week.

U.S. Army Africa team helping fight Ebola
October 7, 2014

Pay attention to this though:

Key in USARAF's mission is the establishment of a 25-bed clinic for aid workers.

Their first priority tells me that they expect more aid workers to need medical assistance.

The next thing they have are testing labs and then finally a training cadre.

I only hope it isn't too little too late.

What a whole bunch of crap, our president dealing with ebola is to send our military to get infected, see that is how we need to play the compassion card, hug everybody infected or not because we need to be compassioned as our children and loves ones fall victim to ebola.

I have never seen more incompetent government like the ones we have today, and lets face it, it could have been any government regardless of political party lines.

They must be NBC units.

My CSM was talking about one of the Combat Aviation Brigades going out, at least in task force configuration(smaller mixed units rather than whole brigade) for this.

He said it's either Africa and fight Ebola or Iraq....

I'll take Iraq please.

originally posted by: MrNeo
They must be NBC units.

Some are. Others would be security units as well.

Situations like this could be very chaotic.

A few ideas about why the military was sent to Africa when they have just about no training to deal with an Ebola outbreak:

1. There is a history in the US of experimenting on members of the military. What better way to create "patients" for new experimental drugs than to send them to a high risk area?

2. In case local civilians show resistance to quarantine, or reluctance to be treated with some new experimental serum or vaccine, there's nothing like a fully armed soldier escorting the doc to provide motivation to comply.

3. This is another feel good political stunt to make Americans believe that their government has everything under control as long as the military are handling it.

4. Swoop in and do as much research on live subjects who know nothing about informed consent.

5. If Africa is the hot spot for Ebola, and decisions need to be made about world policy, then the US military can provide a might = right perspective when it comes to how to stop a threat, or even how to make it worse if for some twisted reason the right person has a vested interest in seeing matters get worse.

a reply to: Petros312

A few ideas about why the military was sent to Africa when they have just about no training to deal with an Ebola outbreak:

You have no idea what you're talking about.

1. There is a history in the US of experimenting on members of the military. What better way to create "patients" for new experimental drugs than to send them to a high risk area?

Makes no logical sense since there are enough infected and potential infected to satisfy the test bed for new drugs.

2. In case local civilians show resistance to quarantine, or reluctance to be treated with some new experimental serum or vaccine, there's nothing like a fully armed soldier escorting the doc to provide motivation to comply.

It is more likely that local government forces would provide that service. Our forces would be there to secure our facilities and assets until the mission is over.

4. Swoop in and do as much research on live subjects who know nothing about informed consent.

People are dying man. I think the need to understand what this virus is doing in the human body is very important.

5. If Africa is the hot spot for Ebola, and decisions need to be made about world policy, then the US military can provide a might = right perspective when it comes to how to stop a threat, or even how to make it worse if for some twisted reason the right person has a vested interest in seeing matters get worse.

The US military is the most mobile force in the world. We can be anywhere on the planet in 24 hours or less and bring in all the testing, diagnostic, and medical equipment necessary to boot.

a reply to: projectvxn

Is not money in poor countries infected populations, but infected Americans means big profits.

And yes US have a shady record of experimentation in his own population.

a reply to: marg6043

Not arguing that.

But that is not what the previous poster was saying.

originally posted by: projectvxn
... that is not what the previous poster was saying.

Yes, while you're so hyped on how fast the US military can get the troops out there and get the supplies out and get the job done better than anyone else in the whole world, I don't believe you have any clue what I'm talking about. Read the book: In the Name of Science if you doubt that the US has used both civilian populations as well as members of the military for experimental purposes.

And I am not having a pissing match with anyone who sounds like a pro-military zealot. So tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about. Fire away!

originally posted by: Petros312
A few ideas about why the military was sent to Africa when they have just about no training to deal with an Ebola outbreak:

1. There is a history in the US of experimenting on members of the military. What better way to create "patients" for new experimental drugs than to send them to a high risk area?

2. In case local civilians show resistance to quarantine, or reluctance to be treated with some new experimental serum or vaccine, there's nothing like a fully armed soldier escorting the doc to provide motivation to comply.

3. This is another feel good political stunt to make Americans believe that their government has everything under control as long as the military are handling it.

4. Swoop in and do as much research on live subjects who know nothing about informed consent.

5. If Africa is the hot spot for Ebola, and decisions need to be made about world policy, then the US military can provide a might = right perspective when it comes to how to stop a threat, or even how to make it worse if for some twisted reason the right person has a vested interest in seeing matters get worse.

Ebola isn't any different from something like nerve gas - a single drop of neurotoxin will kill you in minutes. They do practice with their NBC suits and smoke rooms with tear gas.

Africa needs clinics and testing labs. Get those constructed in areas that haven't been affected yet, and you create a fire break to reduce the spread.

No boots on the ground for enemies you can see. But those deadly invisible ones you pack up and carry back to your loved ones..... Those will be just fine. Why can't they drop supplies and man the borders. I'm don't comment on these boards often. I'm sure someone will tear me apart for that opinion. I just don't see why our people need to there.

I hate to sound paranoid and maybe I need to research it more but.... Does the cdc hold patent, do they receive monetary benefits with treatment? If so, the whole thing is very questionable especially the apparent secrecy around it.

I just hope my feeling is wrong. It has been before when I spend to much time over analyzing things.