Obama to Send 3,000 troops to Tackle Ebola

a reply to: crazyewok

They should send Brad Pitt and call it World War E. Seriously though, this thing is pretty scary even though it hasn't really hit the western world yet. It might be impossible to keep out or could turn into the new AIDS, SARS, H1N1 scare. Might as well send a bunch of Expendables 4 to find out (see, 2 movies from one crisis). It's going to happen sooner or later as it always has. It might not be this disease (or it might) but eventually we'll get our real life disaster movie.

Is this to combat the dead? I don't think we're sending enough troops..

They're interrupting ritual burial practices, without which the dead will rise from the graves..

China wants in on the action too? Where is Capcom hiding..? please tell me Japan is hiding in a bush with a camera waiting to jump out and shout "We got here first!"..


watch the void.

a reply to: galadofwarthethird

...Your running on presumptions, based on 10year old predictions which were written about on a website? Im not even sure what your trying to say really.

You are totally off. Eurosurveillance is a respected scientific journal published by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC). The figure 277,000 was determined in a study commissioned by the US government - completed by teams from the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda Maryland, The University of Tokyo and Arizona State University - and published in Eurosurveillance. The projections are based on the current Ebola epidemic.

The point is the Ebola epidemic is out of control and if it's not contained, we're facing a truly horrific worst case scenario. ...Does that help?

The effective reproduction number, Rt, of Ebola virus disease was estimated using country-specific data reported from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone to the World Health Organization from March to August, 2014.

.....In the hypothetical worst-case scenario that the current situation with an estimated reproduction number R ranging from 1.4 to 1.7 continues for the remainder of the year, we would expect to observe a total of 77,181 to 277,124 additional cases within 2014.

Besides coordination, engineering and the like, some troops really are needed to escort Ebola 'education teams' and doctors.

7 killed while on Guinea Ebola education campaign

Eight dead in attack on Ebola team in Guinea. ‘Killed in cold blood.’

Seems he is sending 3,000 troops to their death.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

I don't know about this ....

Sending 3,000 healthy people INTO an epidemic seems backwards to me. I would think that you would want to take non infected people OUT of the area, depopulate the area and remove the hosts that the Ebola can live in, and let the infection die off.

But I'm not a medical person so what do I know??

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

Unless those 3,000 Troops have the Antidote of Immunity within them or will have before they go overseas . Funded by The __________ Originally for the Elite lol Tho of Course 50% would have the Actual Serum and Other 50% Placebo
on Random..

Cant Have the World Media Reporting that none of the Soldiers had been infected can we..

That Would Be Just too Strange .. WE Can NOT have People Talking and thinking and Questioning Right?

A Plain Suicide Mission

Unless The Government will tell the public that the Soldiers will have a Experimental Drug within them not test on Humans as we can NOT Call it a Vaccine yet..

a reply to: Wolfenz

There are 'supposably' Ebola vaccines out there. These may be the test subjects.

originally posted by: Staroth
Seems he is sending 3,000 troops to their death.

Unless US troops are into licking dead bodies they will be fine.

Most are just there for building field hospital and helping with logistics. Im guessing the majority wont even get closer than 50m to a infected person.

Can someone just find the Effing Monkey that started this whole thing and extract the cure out of his blood.. #satire#
I think its moved faster than they predicted it to move and now theyre scrambaling to fix it i hope they have enough duct tape...

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originally posted by: soficrow
a reply to: galadofwarthethird

The Ebola epidemic is raging in Africa - apparent even with incomplete under-reporting. The 277,000 figure came from a study commissioned by the US government, published in Eurosurveillance. ...Ten years ago, I started flagging cutting-edge paradigm-shifting scientific research on ATS - and I have not been wrong. Most everything I posted has been verified and validated up the wazoo since, and is making its way into the mainstream. ...As far as this Ebola epidemic goes, if the WHO and the world had jumped in back in March (when I first posted MSF's 'epidemic' call and plea for help), the epidemic would not be out of control now - and you would be saying I was wrong. lol

EARLY TRANSMISSION DYNAMICS OF EBOLA VIRUS DISEASE (EVD), WEST AFRICA, MARCH TO AUGUST 2014

In the hypothetical worst-case scenario that the current situation with an estimated reproduction number R ranging from 1.4 to 1.7 continues for the remainder of the year, we would expect to observe a total of 77,181 to 277,124 additional cases within 2014.

Why is the Ebola epidemic out of control?

Why is the US taking the lead?

Ebola outbreak: Why the U.S. is taking the lead

….[The WHO's] two-year budget had been cut by almost $1 billion and key staff with expertise on emergency response had left as priorities shifted away from potential threats like Ebola.

WHO's epidemic and pandemic response department was dissolved and the outbreak and emergency response section at WHO's Geneva headquarters looked like a ghost town, a WHO consultant told the New York Times.

WHO cut almost all its emergency outbreak experts in Africa to just three before the current Ebola outbreak.

….In the U.S., the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has a budget three times the size of the WHO budget.

….While the U.S. government will now take the lead in the Ebola battle, Obama asked the military to coordinate that effort.

"The U.S. military is really the only organization, perhaps in the entire world, that could provide the support and the resources at the pace necessary to fully respond to the growing outbreak of Ebola," Michaud says.

ETA: Here is an excellent projection chart from ikonoklast, posted here.

Looks a lot like the global warming predictions.

Funny how these guys like to pretend they can see into the future.

a reply to: OneManArmy

And what? The same people who don't understand climate change projections also don't don't know how to read exponential growth charts?

[sigh]

originally posted by: soficrow
a reply to: OneManArmy

And what? The same people who don't understand climate change projections also don't don't know how to read exponential growth charts?

[sigh]

No, its just funny how the "current" figures are at pretty much zero.

But in a couple months(the future) its the end of the world.
Funny that.

When will people learn that bulltish predictions never come true.
Since when did these self appointed experts become soothsayers.

Heres my prediction, the chart is a wild over estimation of what will really happen.

Im no psychic, but I have seen these claims too many times, only for them never to come true.
Lets see who is right at christmas. If Im wrong, I will eat my computer.

Just looking at the links in your sig, you obviously have an agenda.

a reply to: OneManArmy

Just looking at the links in your sig, you obviously have an agenda.

No. Just OCD - and a deep interest in the impacts environmental changes have on viruses, microbes, and by extension/infection, humans.

Given the recent events, I'm rethinking what the 3,000 troops will be used for.

Sure some will be used for humanitarian purposes but is it possible they are intending to close flights and secure the border.
They had to know there would be a time when the hospitals there would be at capacity and people would be trying to get care anyway they could.

There will be a period of mass panic if the border closes plus the US and other Western countries will probably have an obligation to provide some type of transport out to it's citizens even if it's to a quarantined location.

Do you think the troops might be there to assist with a possible border closing?

Hate to derail the climate change debate but can someone point me to a list of the bases from which these units are being sent to Liberia?
I'll start the list with the 101st Airborne out of Ft. Campbell, KY will be sending 700 troops.
www.cincinnati.com...

Here's the thing about this bunch---they are air assault trained---"to kill people and break things from the air" as my dear friend who was a Screamin' Eagle. Wiki tells a fair story of them here: en.wikipedia.org...

The Army has a lot of construction units, transportation units and support units so why deploy an air assault unit, one freshly arrived back from Afghanistan? These young men and women haven't had time to catch their breath and say hi to their families and now they're being sent into a medical emergency situation with 6 hours of training, demonstrations and lectures on bio warfare.
This announcement has had me, in the words of one of my fav talk show hosts, "walking around with my head on sideways" trying to discern if this deployment is sheer ignorance or ....what?
So that's what led me to think about where the rest of the troops are coming from and what are their missions? Has anyone seen a list?
A quick search yields these:
Ft. Hood, 36th Engineers Brigade will send 450 troops.
www.mysanantonio.com...

From USAToday...www.usatoday.com...

The vast majority of troops deploying to Liberia will be soldiers from Fort Campbell, Kentucky, and Fort Hood, Texas. In addition, at least 700 combat engineers from across the Army will be tapped for the mission. A small number of troops have deployed to an airfield in nearby Senegal and are standing by to assist if a large-scale evacuation is required.

I completely understand the engineering and transportation divisions but I can't find a single person who can explain how people trained in air assault....???
I also haven't been able to find out about the troops already on the ground there spoken of in the article.

About 350 U.S. troops are now in West Africa and total deployments may reach 4,000 during the next several weeks. The size and scope of the mission has expanded from initial estimates in September, when officials said it would last about six months and require about 3,000 troops.

Are they from Ft. Detrick? Are they the logistical troops?

I'm really confused and I'm sure my anger at hearing about this deployment has fogged my thinking but this MAKES NO SENSE to me.


I understand that these are members of a volunteer Army. I understand that. But this is asking too much.
I'm all in favor of anyone who has the talent, ability, knowledge and/or willingness to help combat this disease being allowed to go and do their best. But I am not in favor of sending troops who have scant training in handling a deadly pathogen. The Army has scads of troops trained in bioterrorism---why aren't they being deployed?
I get it that we have a fine Army. I'm not putting down on the Army troops for one minute. It's the decision to deploy these particular troops that has my head spinning---and their's as well, I'm pretty sure.
If it had been announced that we were sending fighters to do in ISIS, the 101st Airborne would not have been surprised to be called in. For a medical emergency....
Ft. Campbell is less than 70 miles from us. I know several civilians who work there. Their heads are being messed-with by this also.
I've enjoyed reading all the viewpoints and thank everyone for their thoughtful contributions. If anyone can add to the list I'd be obliged.

a reply to: diggindirt

Heard on the radio in the last hour that we in the UK will have more troops fighting Ebola than any other "conflict".

This stinks to high heaven.

originally posted by: Daughter2


Do you think the troops might be there to assist with a possible border closing?

Or to bring the disease back en masse.

I think you are probably right though. Im leaning towards them locking down these countries in the very near future. As if that will do anything.
Talk about locking the stable once the horse had bolted.

If he wants to send 3,000 troops to tackle ebola ... he should probably be sending them to Dallas and Cleveland.

The marines are ruthless and efficient at what they do.

Tinhat

They are going over to set up human experiments to get to the truth about transmission; pre-symptomatic, skin contact minus mucus membranes, efficient aerosol tranmission, effectiveness of experimental therapies, etc.

/tinhat

No disrespect to those serving honorably, but no one can tell me that there aren't people in power who would have no problem with the above (crazy) suggestions.