Extent of Antarctic sea ice reaches record levels, scientists say

Scientists say the extent of Antarctic sea ice cover is at its highest level since records began.

Satellite imagery reveals an area of about 20 million square kilometres covered by sea ice around the Antarctic continent.

Jan Lieser from the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre (CRC) said the discovery was made two days ago.

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Is this proof of Global warming, or is this expected? I don't want to just claim it's significant, but damn, it sure sounds like it.
Or perhaps this is irrelevant.

Yea it's significant. It will change the salinity of ocean waters, and that in turn will change weather patterns and more, in an unprecidented way.

Its not called global warming for a reason anymore, does that mean the half of the doom porn books that where wrong claiming an ice age was coming are now right and the other half claiming we will be dawning and baking due to global warming were wrong?

Oh well what difference does it makes if half is wrong and we all are doomed the same in the end.

To be sure your climate change is a lie and chemtrails are a lie campaign is starting to make me believe global warming and chemtrails are real, someone cant have that much of a grit for something fake, there must be more to this that what he says

originally posted by: Dianec
Yea it's significant. It will change the salinity of ocean waters, and that in turn will change weather patterns and more, in an unprecidented way.

How does that work ?

Surely Sea ice is made of Sea water !!!......or am I missing something.

originally posted by: ken10

originally posted by: Dianec
Yea it's significant. It will change the salinity of ocean waters, and that in turn will change weather patterns and more, in an unprecidented way.

How does that work ?

Surely Sea ice is made of Sea water !!!......or am I missing something.

Icebergs are mostly fresh water. The water comes from different sources, but even ice that forms from the freezing seawater is fresh... it freezes slowly enough that it forms crystalline water (ice), which does not have room for salt inclusions.

a reply to: ken10

More fresh water so less saline. Am on my way to work so will link later, or look up changes in ocean salinity.


Here ya go:

eesc.columbia.edu...

This planet's weather has undergone changes since time on this planet began. It will continue to change, maybe to a large extent in our lifetimes.

But I won't listen when they tell us it's our fault. It's all lies to justify another way to tax you or increase your bills.

There are things that can happen in this world that can change the weather a darn lot faster than us. Look at volcano bardabunga in Iceland, if the eruption continues there for a few months, spewing SO2 into the air for long enough. We could have another Laki type eruption on our hands that caused droughts and famines world wide.

In conclusion it doesn't matter what we try to change, the Earth has its own plans.

I just want some Republicans to admit their ignorance....Any ATS'ers willing to Step Up? or keeping hiding in the shadows?

Climate Change / Global Warming . two sides of the same coin, it doesn't matter what you call it.there is noticeable change from or without us, but it IS occurring.

Please whip the greasy fat of lies blinding your eyes and swap the thick black wax from your ears. Republicans...It is okay, to be wrong. Lets work together to find a solution.

Be a bigger person than my post and work for a solution. No more "kicking the proverbial can down the road" (the road being the kids of tomorrow, UR kids and Their Kids too)

originally posted by: Dianec
a reply to: ken10

More fresh water so less saline. Am on my way to work so will link later, or look up changes in ocean salinity.


Here ya go:

eesc.columbia.edu...

Thanks, that was very informative.

a reply to: DAZ21

Be that as it may, the Earth will be Earth.

But human beings have caused problems. Don't be blind to the pollution in the lakes and rivers of 3rd worlds. Or the nuclear leakage. Or the highly toxic air in China.
Take responsibility and work for a better tomorrow.

a reply to: SirKonstantin

Politicizing this is what makes the whole thing ignorant. Don't be that guy.

Making the world a better place for our future generations? I think we can all get behind that. As long as we aren't beaten into submission with the fear stick.

But what of the sea ice thing? Is this expected? Will it cause more doom? Is it a surprise?

originally posted by: Dianec
Yea it's significant. It will change the salinity of ocean waters, and that in turn will change weather patterns and more, in an unprecidented way.

If it melts. Spring is about to kick in down there so I guess we will know soon.

Obviously the climate people have not showed up yet. So I'll answer for them. The sea ice has expanded but it's the wrong sort of ice or an even better answer the newly formed sea ice is not as thick as the original ice that was there before it melted. We ,as humans, are just a flea on the back of a gnat on the rear end of a bear. The Earth will do what it wants to do. Whether mankind is part of it only time will tell. The Earth could just shrug us off and carry on.

originally posted by: SirKonstantin
I just want some Republicans to admit their ignorance....Any ATS'ers willing to Step Up? or keeping hiding in the shadows?

Climate Change / Global Warming . two sides of the same coin, it doesn't matter what you call it.there is noticeable change from or without us, but it IS occurring.

Wait isn't it always the democrats pushing the global warming agenda and trying to implement carbon taxes, and they attack republicans for caring about the economy more than the environment... oh wait you're saying this is still a type of climate change and therefore democrats are still right even if it's the opposite type of climate change they always talk about? Not only are you unable to admit when you're wrong, you twist the entire situation to make it look like you're still right. And no I am not republican.

originally posted by: ZeussusZ

originally posted by: Dianec
Yea it's significant. It will change the salinity of ocean waters, and that in turn will change weather patterns and more, in an unprecidented way.

If it melts. Spring is about to kick in down there so I guess we will know soon.

It will. If this is that evident (land ice moving to sea ice), it means deep water circulation patterns are being altered, which has an impact on the gulf stream. I bet the northern hemispherr gets dumped on hard this year.

originally posted by: crayzeed
Obviously the climate people have not showed up yet. So I'll answer for them. The sea ice has expanded but it's the wrong sort of ice or an even better answer the newly formed sea ice is not as thick as the original ice that was there before it melted. We ,as humans, are just a flea on the back of a gnat on the rear end of a bear. The Earth will do what it wants to do. Whether mankind is part of it only time will tell. The Earth could just shrug us off and carry on.

Lol actually it's still due to global warming, according to the article:

CEO of the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems CRC, Tony Worby, said the warming atmosphere is leading to greater sea ice coverage by changing wind patterns.

originally posted by: network dude

So let me see if I understand this, the great threat to our environment was the melting of ice and raising sea levels around the world threatening coast cities everywhere as waters in the ocean would flood.

Now there is no melting and the global warming example is proved false because from space we find more ice and it's because of global warming and windy conditions around the pole and that produces ice.

Then in California they are to institute a $1.00 a gallon tax increase on gasoline as a carbon tax to fight global warming and this makes sense to somebody besides a politician?

Yeah it's those crazy ass republicans that are causing the problem for sure. No it's evil corporations, no it's coal fired power plants.... No wait I know it's cow farts....

a reply to: MarlinGrace

Yea, I go with cow farts too. Easy to blame them as the won't confirm nor deny anything.

Damn cows.

a reply to: network dude

Yeah its always fun to blame the cows as they just mooo moo around but one day they will fed up with this crap and will pick they halberds and make hamburgers out of us



I played way too much d2 back in the day... ill find my way out on my own now thanks

a reply to: SirKonstantin

No doubt it is happening. It has happened (climate change) since the first dawn on earth, so to speak.

There are clearly documented cycles of glaciation and interglacial periods since a single land mass began blocking the currents that used to virtually circle the earth. As a result we can see that we are nearing the end of the current interglacial period. Also, as we can see, this interglacial period has not yet, and may not, experienced the higher global temperatures as seen in previous interglacials.

I would like to point out that the growth in Antarctic ice coverage (sea ice) increases the planet's albedo, as has the slight increase in Arctic ice over the last year. Combine that with the drop in average global temps over the last 4 years and maybe we have something significant, or maybe not. 1 year of ice growth in the north does not a trend make. 4 years of dropping temps is not enough to establish a pattern either.

Hence, the temperatures we see, and have experienced over the last 150 years are not outside the norm. Add to that the GHG hype is vastly overstated. Glacial periods have begun with co2 levels at multiple times our current level.

Therefore, the questioning of man's responsibility for the temperature increases over the last 150 years is valid. It is well known that co2 rises as ocean temps rise. In fact, there is documentation that shows a typical lag of 800-1000 years of co2 increases as compared to the rise of temperatures.

The co2 hysteria is being manipulated to forward the green agenda.

I can provide academic, in most cases, sources to support my above statements. The sources that are not academic are not from tin-foil-hat wearing websites, but rather NOAA and other similar sources.

Being a semi-retired, no longer practicing geologist I knew the whole co2 hysteria agenda was bogus when I first watched Al Gore's a "Convenient Lie". Obvious manipulation of truth, combined with (most importantly) the exclusion of data which promoted the belief that man was directly and provably responsible for global warming.

The approach that our climate was in balance until man's Industrial Age is such a load of bull crap it boggles the mind. Climate is never in balance. It is always changing...always. Again, I stress that we are not outside the norms of previous interglacial periods and, indeed, we are actually below the highs in temps reached in previous interglacial periods.

17 years of global warming pause, combined with a decrease in average global temp over the last 4 years, may not mean much, or it may be signaling the approaching end of our current interglacial period. There is not enough time involved to declare it...but in the future we will know which is true.