MUST SEE!! Student frustrated with teacher...

It's really disheartening to see so many people who can't recognize a child in need, when they're staring them in the face. This is a large factor towards the increased amount of child suicides. Utter lack of understanding for the younger generation; gross negligence via ineptitude.

I am truly ashamed to even consider myself apart of this species, which is blinded to its own deprivation, while aggrandizing itself from the highest of pedestals. I've not seen such hubris as this in any of the threads I've read so far.

I have to commend onequestion and Night Star for the impossible task of trying to pull water out of a stone. Thank you for your compassion and understanding of the deeper matters at play here. It's threads like these that really bring to light how absolutely futile it is, to hope for anything but the perpetuation of suffering in this world.

a reply to: Aedaeum

I was disheartened myself at the reaction of some members.

a reply to: Night Star

Me too.

But then, I realized that a lot of people never were like this kid.
Therefore they wouldn't understand.

I went through the alternative system in school. Most of the kids were like this in one way or another, myself included.
I understand where he is coming from.

This kid is hungry for a real teacher and he deserves one, anyone who says otherwise is delusional.
When the American education system is complete garbage why wouldn't kids drop out? You can get the same piece of paper that says you have a basic education in 30 days, why would anyone want to waste 4 years in high school when you can cut the crap and get an early start at a community college? I didn't. It's a sad reality that a child is forced to educate themselves when there are people who are being paid to educate them.

a reply to: Night Star

I was disheartened myself at the reaction of some members.

Why?

I'm a pretty big fan of civil disobedience myself. I walked out of a couple classes when I was a kid... there are consequences for our actions that we don't always see when we're feeling that sense of outrage in the moment

Young people have a fire in their bellies and at a certain age they want to take on the whole world. More power to them - but having that fire is not a permission slip to do harm

He was angry at the system - not just the teacher

He made it personal and attacked her. What was her crime - not being inspiring enough? Not hands on enough? She swore at a student? Being human?

Any thoughts to what this did to her life?

He was rewarded for this in a thousand different ways, and so now I wonder if he'll be in a position to learn that he has a responsibility to think of the consequences of doing what feels right in the moment

Watch to the end - his mom has an interesting reaction

And for our OP - it's a wonderful thing to want to change this world for the better. You should never change that about yourself. If you can do it without creating villains or enemies where there are none - better. We're all in this together - pretty much

I still want to know if this kid actually graduated or not.

Because if he didn't, I think that really says a lot.

a reply to: Lyxdeslic

About his actions or what he's saying?

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Lyxdeslic

About his actions or what he's saying?

About him as a person. I didn't disagree with the fact that what he's saying is true. I disagree with his actions.

a reply to: Lyxdeslic

Well, the way he handled it was much better than what I remember seeing in school.
At least there were no chairs thrown and lots of mouth diarrhea.

he stood up for himself and what he was seeing and thinking.
yeah, there are better ways, although, in this case?
Looks like he got his point across very well since he ended up on the MSN.
That is a much better outcome than most kids who would of been suspended for a few days
and then forgotten about.

His actions created awareness in their school-board system, and so I think his actions were not only correct,
but surprisingly effective. The end result was way more than probably any other way if you get my meaning.

I'd be willing to bet though that if it happened again, or under different circumstances, the next person to pull that would be punished.

originally posted by: tinker9917
Do you know cursive writing is only taught for a few weeks in 3rd grade and kids are not required to write in cursive anymore? I have 4 kids age 14-20 and none are required write cursive in school, which was a requirement when I went to school years ago.

I make them write cursive when doing shopping lists, etc., just to teach them, but it takes them forever.

People are dumbfounded when my kids don't sign their name in cursive (like to get drivers license, etc).

I did know this, I'm a cursive writer myself but even as I was growing up (I'm 30 now) cursive wasn't required or particularly encouraged after grade school. I prefer it but I can see the argument against it. In a world where machines write in print it only makes sense for our handwriting to match.

originally posted by: WeAreSound
I have read through the majority of this thread, but have not seen a response from an actual teacher, so I thought I would give my thoughts. I have taught at high school level (11-18 year olds) for the past 15 years, albeit in the UK. Watching this video I have to say I totally support the student.

Well, I said my piece and I'm not a career teacher but I have taught a few college classes. Anyways to your point about learning styles, something that I think we should do in grade school at a minimum is to test kids each year in order to determine their learning style. Then put the students with the same style in the same class. That way teachers can more narrowly focus on specific styles and better specialize in the students actually taking their class. College students already do this on their own by picking the teachers they find themselves best able to work with.

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

He made it personal and attacked her. What was her crime - not being inspiring enough? Not hands on enough? She swore at a student? Being human?

Any thoughts to what this did to her life?

Hell, I swear all the time and I realize the teacher is only human, but in her profession, she has to be more careful. It started with his asking a question and her swearing at him and throwing him out of the class. I actually hope that she was able to keep her job. A simple warning would suffice. All she had to do was answer the kid. I don't think he should have been tossed out of the class for asking a question.

I'm sure the media must have contacted her for her side of the story, but we have seen and heard nothing more on the subject.

originally posted by: Lyxdeslic
I still want to know if this kid actually graduated or not.

Because if he didn't, I think that really says a lot.

If he didn't graduate with the passion he had for learning, I would say he has a learning disability. It doesn't make him a bad person.

originally posted by: Night Star

originally posted by: Lyxdeslic
I still want to know if this kid actually graduated or not.

Because if he didn't, I think that really says a lot.

If he didn't graduate with the passion he had for learning, I would say he has a learning disability. It doesn't make him a bad person.

When did I say that people with learning disabilities are bad people? When did I say that people who drop out are bad people? I never said that this person was a bad person. I said that the way he handled the situation was wrong.

a reply to: onequestion

Some of these replies basically saying it's ok for that teacher to just show up for her paycheck, and NOT Really teach those students is Freakin WRONG!!!!!!

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!?!?!?

That Teacher has a JOB to do, and that is to TEACH Those kids, whatever the subject is, and give them a good Reason to be there!!!!!

That Brother Long Hair is RIGHT!!!!!!
If You don't think so, then there is definitely something wrong with You!!!

originally posted by: SyxPak
a reply to: onequestion

Some of these replies basically saying it's ok for that teacher to just show up for her paycheck, and NOT Really teach those students is Freakin WRONG!!!!!!

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!?!?!?

That Teacher has a JOB to do, and that is to TEACH Those kids, whatever the subject is, and give them a good Reason to be there!!!!!

That Brother Long Hair is RIGHT!!!!!!
If You don't think so, then there is definitely something wrong with You!!!

Sorry I was taught to respect people, regardless of whether or not I agreed with them or even liked them. Had I of pulled a stunt like that when I was in school my mother would have busted my ass with whatever was close to her at the time.

a reply to: Lyxdeslic
I was taught that respect is earned, and that it is a two-way street.

a reply to: Lyxdeslic

Sorry about that. I've just seen so many people tearing the kid down and I get defensive for him.

It takes a lot to piss me off and when someone does, look out! I'm like a wild tiger. LOL That kid was quite respectful for being pissed off. He only swore once but that was repeating what the teacher said to him. He didn't throw anything, he kept his voice down and wasn't yelling and screaming. Hell when I went to school, books would have been thrown and chairs flying and a lot of swearing, yelling and screaming.

a reply to: EyesOpenMouthShut

Yep! I dropped out. Got my GED like a few years later. I messed up because I only had half a year to go in high school, but got tired of the harassment from the upper school body. Principle, and the Dean mainly.
It did take me a few years to get my life together, but I am glad for that. It actually helped me get with the program. No I don't follow all the mainline rules. Hell No! But I stay out of the view of law enforcement by not doing things to attract them, but I live my own life......
I agree with that kid in what he did in class to the teacher. Kudos to Him for that!