Are we evolving into a NEW type of human? 'Different' species will have evolved by 2050

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

That is a good question and one that I had to go look up the answer to so that I could answer it for you. This article came out in February of this year so it is recent enough.

Were Neanderthals a different species?

Here is what the article said on the matter and it makes a lot of sense.

There are deserts on the X chromosome and in genes involved in the testes. Patterns like these in other species ranging from rabbits to fruit flies are regarded as signs that one species is about to split into two.

Hybrid males descended from both branches tend to be infertile, like mules. That’s because males have only one X chromosome, and if it happens to be one that impairs their fertility, then they may not reproduce. Females have two X chromosomes, so even if one is impaired, if the other one is normal, it can rescue her ability to bear young.

“So this suggests that the male hybrids might not have been fertile, whereas the females might have been fully fertile,” Svante Pääbo told Richard Harris of National Public Radio. Pääbo, the grand old man of ancient DNA based at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, was an author of the other paper, which appeared in Nature. We might have inherited most of our Neanderthal genes through hybrid females, he said.

Fox News quoted Pääbo as saying Neanderthals must have been disappointed in their sons.

Another author, David Reich of Harvard Medical School, told reporters that we and Neanderthals “were at the edge of biological compatibility.”

“This underlines that modern humans and Neanderthals are indeed different species,” Fred Spoor told New Scientist. Spoor is also at the Leipzig Max Planck but was not a part of the Neanderthal research. Other scientists are more cautious about making so firm a declaration, but it’s clear that many lean toward that same conclusion, that Neanderthals were not Homo sapiens neanderthalensis but, rather, Homo neanderthalensis.

So in effect, humans and neanderthals co-bred in our past (possibly when our genetic makeup was more similar than it would be today if they were still around). This resulted in some hybrids. Since what makes infertility happen in hybrids is located on the x chromosome, females have two chances to remain fertile while males only have one. So in effect the female hybrids turned around and rebred with purebred humans, passing along the neanderthal genes that she picked up from one of her parents. Meanwhile the males became infertile and they died out without any offspring.

Well there is the concept of a technological singularity. I my opinion the advent of nano-tech, 3D printing of organs and just recently how they grew a small human brain in a laboratory shows the possibility of real Artificial intelligence and the start of the technological singularity.

The technological singularity hypothesis supposes that accelerating progress in technologies will cause a runaway effect wherein artificial intelligence will exceed human intellectual capacity and control, thus radically changing or even ending civilization in an event called the singularity.[1] Because the capabilities of such an intelligence may be difficult for a human to comprehend, the technological singularity is often seen as an occurrence beyond which the forthcoming course of human history would be unpredictable or even unfathomable

Technological singularity WIKI

Ok so after this technological singularity happens mankind will unnaturally evolve into what is known as Trans humanism.

Transhumanism (abbreviated as H+ or h+) is an international cultural and intellectual movement with an eventual goal of fundamentally transforming the human condition by developing and making widely available technologies to greatly enhance human intellectual, physical, and psychological capacities.[1] Transhumanist thinkers study the potential benefits and dangers of emerging technologies that could overcome fundamental human limitations, as well as the ethics of developing and using such technologies.

Transhumanism WIKI

After the merge to Trans humanism will be what's know as Post human. Possibly leaving behind our physical bodies, either cyborgs or our Souls, Id or whatever into some construct or virtual world.

In critical theory, the posthuman is a speculative being that represents or seeks to re-conceive the human. It is the object of posthumanist criticism, which critically questions Renaissance humanism, a branch of humanist philosophy which claims that human nature is a universal state from which the human being emerges; human nature is autonomous, rational, capable of free will, and unified in itself as the apex of existence. Thus, the posthuman position recognizes imperfectability and disunity within him or herself, and understands the world through heterogeneous perspectives while seeking to maintain intellectual rigour and a dedication to objective observations. Key to this posthuman practice is the ability to fluidly change perspectives and manifest oneself through different identities. The posthuman, for critical theorists of the subject, has an emergent ontology rather than a stable one; in other words, the posthuman is not a singular, defined individual, but rather one who can "become" or embody different identities and understand the world from multiple, heterogeneous perspectives

Posthumanism WIKI

I hope all of this info answers your questions or at least gives you a idea of what might or could be a synthetic evolution in the near future. Wow did I just invent a new phrase, "synthetic evolution"?

Here is a neat video that deals with all these concepts and more. It's a little long but worth the watch.

Building Gods Documentary - Trans-humanism, Artificial intelligence and nanotechnology This film by Ken Gumbs tackles the issue of pending greater-than-human artificial intelligence and the possible ramifications. Different individuals with different backgrounds are interviewed on the subject, including a theologian, a philosopher, a brain builder and a cyborg. A wide spectrum of topics are discussed, including trans-humanism, mind-machine mergers, uploading, and artificial super-intelligence.

a reply to: proob4
Fascinating take there. I do not know what to think about all that, frankly.

Our technology does seem to be approaching the singularity spoken of, but I question man's readiness.

There are such absolutely, totally ignorant and stupid people that make up such large portions of our society that I sincerely question what the outcome would be if it happened soon.

Seems that the haves and have nots would experience a social evolution of a kind that might result in the haves being those capable of using, dealing with (psychologically and intellectually) advanced technologies and the have nots would be those who cannot.

The reason I mention the ability to deal with the technology goes back to a book published back in 1970 that described accurately the ever rapidly increasing level of technology and man's ability to deal with such rapid change. He basically predicted today's society, stress and rapid development of commonly used technology.

He described Future Shock (the title of the book) as being the effect that we would experience with this rapid onslaught. He likened it to taking an aboriginal type who had never had any contact with modern society, never had contact with modern technology....somewhat like transporting a neanderthal from the past and dumping him in downtown NY. He would experience a culture shock of major proportions.

Alvin Toffler postulated that future man (such as today) would experience a continual culture shock of sorts due to the constantly evolving technology resulting in an increase in day to day stress levels. This he named Future Shock...the effect of constantly being confronted by an ever rapidly changing immediate future.

In his next book "The Third Wave" he described the coming technology and societal changes. He was so close to the mark it is incredible. He described smart homes. He described our TV stations....he described the death of the major networks and the fracturing of such into individual, narrow focused, single themed channels. Hundreds of them. Hit that right on the head... This book was published in 1980.

Like millions of people I was profoundly disturbed when I read Future Shock by Alvin Toffler. He looked at media and technology of 1970, thought about where it was going and painted a bleak future. He coined the term “information overload,” and painted a picture of people who were isolated and depressed, cut off from human intimacy by a relentless fire hose of messages and data barraging us relentlessly.
The future he was looking at in 1970 is now. And yes, we live in an era of data fire hoses and sometimes we all feel either overwhelmed or trapped. Technology is far more ubiquitous than Toffler could possibly have imagined. Hell, it’s probably more ubiquitous than Bill Gates or Steve Jobs ever imagined.

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: proob4


Seems that the haves and have nots would experience a social evolution of a kind that might result in the haves being those capable of using, dealing with (psychologically and intellectually) advanced technologies and the have nots would be those who cannot.

In the video I posted they do in fact cover this. Thanks for your informative post btw.

ETA: Also in the video they mention this , and it actually made sense to me and scared the hell out of me at the same time. What if we create a super computer with extreme intelligence that was able to think beyond the means of our understanding. A artificial intelligence that could understand dimensions other than the 3 we currently live in. What if AI invents time travel? They could make it so we never even existed? Mankind through invention deleting itself into non existence? Now that's a concept to think about huh? TOTAL IMMACULATE IRONY!

a reply to: proob4

The time travel scenario creates a couple of problems.

If the computer eliminates man at an earlier period, then no one would have created the computer in the first place......that is even assuming that time travel and the ability to change the present from the past is even possible. Something I kinda doubt.

On the other hand, we could face a "Terminator" kind of situation......haha!

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: proob4

The time travel scenario creates a couple of problems.

If the computer eliminates man at an earlier period, then no one would have created the computer in the first place......that is even assuming that time travel and the ability to change the present from the past is even possible. Something I kinda doubt.

On the other hand, we could face a "Terminator" kind of situation......haha!

What if the AI I speak of implant themselves before us with a biological cyborg of sorts? Maybe it already happened and we are them? And it all comes full circle again? Just joking of course, but what if they did implant themselves just before us and make it not possible for us to evolve in the first place? Then theoretically we have been deleted. Is this not this what the OP is about anyway, modern evolution of mankind? Just sayin'.

a reply to: proob4

Well...we would never be aware that we had been deleted, so no biggie

lol

Or..the quantum multiverses would allow us to exist in universes which the big C did not delete us

a reply to: TDawgRex

This is the same crap the insane trans-humanist crowd has been talking about for centuries. Never gonna happen, only human arrogance thinks it can live out of balance with its support system.

originally posted by: th3dudeabides
a reply to: TDawgRex

This is the same crap the insane trans-humanist crowd has been talking about for centuries. Never gonna happen, only human arrogance thinks it can live out of balance with its support system.

Wow i would hate to see what you have to say about my post's on the 3rd page? Yikes!

a reply to: TDawgRex

The smaller penises predicted by the study are already a reality - and result from the chronic disease pandemic, most of which are "fibrotic diseases and disorders," caused by fibrosis ....and of course, said fibrosis results from pandemic prion infection.

Laugh. But it's true. Just waiting for you all to catch up.

Update! Just found out about this. And it is another piece of what i was talking about.
Micro Humans

originally posted by: JimNasium

Greetings- I and I think that Mother Earth has shifted into the 4th chakra just like the Maya craved Us about "The Beginning of a New Era" Many that are "in body" have received a 'boost' and those on the 'Autism Spectrum' , those currently deemed "disabled", are actually a step or two ahead of "most".. These 'meek' shall inherit the Earth..

Transitioning from 'Yang' to 'Yin'. getting rid of the patriarchal balogna (military™, government™, religion™)
From 'indigo' into 'octarine'... From 3rd chakra into the 4th chakra, those who won't be able to resonate with the uptick in vibration won't be able to exist. They'll still make it though..

namaste

P.S. I don't watch/look at 'doom porn' and spend a bunch of "time" where the 'thought' is 'real' and the 'physical' is the 'illusion'... Better do

"...he Maya craved Us about."?? What does that mean? Do you know what craved means?

i doubt it

a reply to: TDawgRex

Evolution by means of natural selection is the process by which genetic mutations that enhance reproduction become and remain more common in successive generations of a population.

Human beings, as well as many other species, are not gaining enhanced data in our DNA, but losing data. We have become corrupt, like a copy of a copy of a copy. This leads to a loss of data. Groups of people may loose bits of data and become slightly different in appearance, like various types of dogs, but are still the same thing.

originally posted by: mikefougnie
a reply to: TDawgRex

Evolution by means of natural selection is the process by which genetic mutations that enhance reproduction become and remain more common in successive generations of a population.

Human beings, as well as many other species, are not gaining enhanced data in our DNA, but losing data. We have become corrupt, like a copy of a copy of a copy. This leads to a loss of data. Groups of people may loose bits of data and become slightly different in appearance, like various types of dogs, but are still the same thing.

When you put it that way I had to chuckle. It made me imagine people walking around with purse humans...kind of like people walk around now with purse dogs.

"Look! I bought a Mighty Mite today! Isn't he cute!"

originally posted by: mikefougnie
a reply to: TDawgRex

Evolution by means of natural selection is the process by which genetic mutations that enhance reproduction become and remain more common in successive generations of a population.

Human beings, as well as many other species, are not gaining enhanced data in our DNA, but losing data. We have become corrupt, like a copy of a copy of a copy. This leads to a loss of data. Groups of people may loose bits of data and become slightly different in appearance, like various types of dogs, but are still the same thing.

Enhance in that phrase represents a greater ability to reproduce and pass genes along. It simply refers to change in the DNA and is neither positive nor negative.

a reply to: cmdrkeenkid

I agree. Our society is changing, thanks to how we interact with (or through) technologies. While this can be both good and bad depending on the specifics, it is a change. The change in our life styles can change how our bodies function in some ways, but that is not evolution.

originally posted by: soficrow
a reply to: TDawgRex

The smaller penises predicted by the study are already a reality - and result from the chronic disease pandemic, most of which are "fibrotic diseases and disorders," caused by fibrosis ....and of course, said fibrosis results from pandemic prion infection.

Laugh. But it's true. Just waiting for you all to catch up.

Well, now we add the phase "Micro-penis" to the evolutionary dialogue.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a correlation between steroids in every day food to an increase in micro-penis rates as well.

originally posted by: TDawgRex

originally posted by: mikefougnie
a reply to: TDawgRex

Evolution by means of natural selection is the process by which genetic mutations that enhance reproduction become and remain more common in successive generations of a population.

Human beings, as well as many other species, are not gaining enhanced data in our DNA, but losing data. We have become corrupt, like a copy of a copy of a copy. This leads to a loss of data. Groups of people may loose bits of data and become slightly different in appearance, like various types of dogs, but are still the same thing.

When you put it that way I had to chuckle. It made me imagine people walking around with purse humans...kind of like people walk around now with purse dogs.

"Look! I bought a Mighty Mite today! Isn't he cute!"

HAHA! Yeah, that is a funny image. But it does make you think too.

I think it is certainly possible if they get better at genetic engineering. Think how far computer science has come; 40 years ago nobody outside of sci-fi would have imagined we would carry the world around in our pocket via smartphone, or the ways the Internet has transformed jobs and social life. Once people get adept at manipulating the nervous system and the genetic code...well, the sky's the limit.

Only thing is...I don't want to live to be 500 or have kids when I'm 80.