What sources would you believe for contrail science?

a reply to: HauntWok

LOL...Well played, I had no idea



ETA: Actually I should have seen that coming because when I went over the items in your link I was thinking..."Damn, it's in everything!"

a reply to: HauntWok

Really? Dihydrogen Monoxide? It doesn't come from the engines

It sure does. About 1.24 times the amount of fuel combusted.

a reply to: DenyObfuscation
What a viscous chemical! It's like it's everywhere!

a reply to: HauntWok
Just about everywhere except in "chemtrail theory" which is ironic because the 'theory' is all wet!

ETA: BTW, would anyone like to answer the question that is the title of this thread?


What sources would you believe for contrail science?

originally posted by: VoidHawk
a reply to: network dude

Well, I wouldn't use any sources provided by yourself or Aloysius

Like this one?

a reply to: MagicWand67

ClimateViewer.com

Sure it is telling the truth...



Cloud seeding cirrus clouds...good one.

Because a video game techie is always the best source for learning science.

Here don't forget this...He is also a pilot, but don't let that get in the way of your absurdness.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Here don't forget this...He is also a pilot, but don't let that get in the way of your absurdness.

Oh, the irony in that statement.

originally posted by: FissionSurplus
I wish that ATS had a section for "Trolling For Arguments". Alas, sadly, they do not.

Nobody's afraid of science. There are, however, quite a few out there who are afraid to let others express their suspicions of what is potentially sprayed in our skies.

You make a great deal of assumptions about "chemtrail believers". You are hell-bent on it. So this whole thread is moot, is it not?

I think this thread is entirely relevant. The chemtrail conspiracy is based upon the belief that some of the trails we see in the skies do not behave as you would expect contrails to and are therefore something different. Surely a knowledge of how contrails normally behave and why is fundamental to assessing whether 'suspicions of what is potentially sprayed in our skies' have any basis at all?

originally posted by: MagicWand67
a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

Chemtrail sites?...not so much

ClimateViewer.com

contrailscience.com and metabunk.com

Because a video game techie is always the best source for learning science.

/sarcasm

Interesting that you should say that...

09/20/2012 NOTE: THANKS TO THE GUYS AT METABUNK.COM FOR SETTING ME STRAIGHT ON GLOBAL DIMMING. LOOKS LIKE I HAVE MORE REVISING TO DO IN THE NEAR FUTURE ON OTHER ARTICLES. KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE.

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originally posted by: VoidHawk
a reply to: network dude

Well, I wouldn't use any sources provided by yourself or Aloysius

Even if what we post is proven factual and true? You hate the source, so you disregard the information. What a disingenuous way to think.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: network dude

What sources would you believe for contrail science?

None on ATS....the agenda is so transparent as to be humorous.

So any site linked by an ATS member is bunk? Brilliant. Why are you still here?

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: network dude

What sources would you believe for contrail science?

None on ATS....the agenda is so transparent as to be humorous.

Considering you are also on ATS, what is your agenda?

originally posted by: MagicWand67
a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

Chemtrail sites?...not so much

ClimateViewer.com

What qualifications do the owners of that site have?

contrailscience.com and metabunk.com

Because a video game techie is always the best source for learning science.

/sarcasm

And I am sure you can prove his information as wrong? (more than just your misunderstanding of perception)

originally posted by: VoidHawk
a reply to: network dude

Well, I wouldn't use any sources provided by yourself or Aloysius

It's quite evident from your previous posts that you are biased in your beliefs.

When on a previous thread it was shown that chemtrail sites disseminate lies and manipulate information to further their claims you argued that it does not disprove the chemtrail thesis, yet here you are saying you don't trust these ATS members, why is that? Care to show where they have lied? You claim to be "open minded" but all I see is a hypocrite.

originally posted by: seabhac-rua

It's quite evident from your previous posts that you are biased in your beliefs.

Not at all, but your entitled to think that if it makes you happy.

originally posted by: seabhac-rua
When on a previous thread it was shown that chemtrail sites disseminate lies and manipulate information to further their claims you argued that it does not disprove the chemtrail thesis

A website pushing BS does not prove nor disprove anything!
If I start a website pushing the OS about 911 and I also include BS does that automatically mean the OS is false? Of course not, yet according to your logic it does! Read what I have quoted^^ from your post.

originally posted by: seabhac-rua
yet here you are saying you don't trust these ATS members, why is that? Care to show where they have lied? You claim to be "open minded" but all I see is a hypocrite.

There are some members whom I do not trust. There are many that I do trust, and it's MY choice to choose those, not yours!
The types that I don't trust are those that choose to ridicule people or call them names, its a very childish response.

I am not actually a fully fledged believer in the "we're being poisoned by chemtrails" theory. I'm on the fence. I take part mostly because I see a small group of people who spend rather a lot of their time trying to force their views onto others, and when those others object they get called names like "hypocrite".

a reply to: VoidHawk

A website pushing BS does not prove nor disprove anything!

Would you care to give an example of what you're calling BS and explain why you think it is BS?

Also, what would/do you consider credible on the issue?

originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: VoidHawk

A website pushing BS does not prove nor disprove anything!

Would you care to give an example of what you're calling BS and explain why you think it is BS?

It wasn't me that said it was BS. Those above stated

chemtrail sites disseminate lies and manipulate information

I responded with "A website pushing BS does not prove nor disprove anything!"

originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
Also, what would/do you consider credible on the issue?

As I said above, I'm on the fence.

a reply to: VoidHawk
A website pushing BS proves the website is pushing BS.

Here's some more sources that I am happy to provide so you can not use them:

Chemtrails are real says Swedish official

- chemtrails are real (for the whole of YT of course....)

Carnicom Institute

Consciousness beyond Chemtrails

Check the Evidence on "Case Orange" - 2 for 1 special

Would you like more??

As I said above, I'm on the fence.

I don't believe you - you have publically stated that you will not use sources that are provided by a couple of people - regardless of whether the information in them is supportable or not.

That is not "on the fence" - that is biased and, literally, irrational.

a reply to: VoidHawk

Well somebody has to be right, chemtrails are either real or they are not.

You have implicitly stated that you do not trust network dude and Aloysius the Gaul.

Tell us why?

It has been shown that top chemtrail websites are telling lies, now prove to us that people, like network and Aloysius, who openly challenge the chemtrail paradigm, are lying.

If both sides are lying then sit on your fence.

originally posted by: VoidHawk

I am not actually a fully fledged believer in the "we're being poisoned by chemtrails" theory. I'm on the fence. I take part mostly because I see a small group of people who spend rather a lot of their time trying to force their views onto others, and when those others object they get called names like "hypocrite".

The reason people are so vocal against the chemtrail myth is that it is probably the most damaging conspiracy theory.

I think people who believe the WTC was demolished by explosives are silly, but I couldn't care less about it because it doesn't really affect anyone.

But the people who push the chemtrail myth are spreading real fear among vulnerable sectors of the population. People's lives are being ruined because they've been convinced that they are being poisoned.

And not only that but a certain breed of vigilantes are making real threats to real aircraft and pilots because they have been brainwashed by these scammers and truly think they would be doing the world a favour by shooting down a "chemtrail plane".

Next time you're on a commercial flight, just bear in mind that these people are casting YOU as the enemy, in order to line their own pockets.