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originally posted by: EternalSolace
a reply to: FlyersFan
That's exactly the point. I don't understand what is so difficult to understand about Hamas being a terrorist organization. If Hamas was sitting on a border next to the US and were launching rockets, into say Texas, they'd be obliterated. If you ask me, the Palestinians would be much better off without Hamas ruling over them.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: daaskapital
What i am trying to say, is that Israel is the root cause of these ongoing problems.
I respectfully disagree. I think both sides are seriously screwed up. Both sides are to blame. And if you rain down 300 rockets on a country that has bigger firepower than you, you are going to get nailed back and in a big way. Common sense says - don't do it. (common sense - something severely lacking in the middle east). I think Seagull said it best - ATS Thread - There Are No Angels
originally posted by: daaskapital
The only reason why the Palestinians were firing rockets at Israel, was because of the destruction and death Israel left in the West Bank, during the search for those three Israeli teenagers.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: daaskapital
What i am trying to say, is that Israel is the root cause of these ongoing problems.
I respectfully disagree. I think both sides are seriously screwed up. Both sides are to blame. And if you rain down 300 rockets on a country that has bigger firepower than you, you are going to get nailed back and in a big way. Common sense says - don't do it. (common sense - something severely lacking in the middle east). I think Seagull said it best - ATS Thread - There Are No Angels
originally posted by: daaskapital
Sure, it isn't a smart idea on behalf of Hamas to fire on Israel, but what else are they going to do?
From the Oslo Accords (Sept. 1993) until September 2000 - nearly 300 Israelis were killed in attacks.
During the Palestinian Al-Aqsa Intifada (Sept. 2000 - Dec. 2005) another 1,100 Israelis were killed.
Since December 2005, Palestinian terrorist attacks have claimed at least another 135 Israeli lives.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
Again, I respectfully disagree. It wasn't the 'only' reason. A long standing hatred and using any excuse to rain down rockets is the reason. (IMHO). And yes, Israel uses any excuse to respond in a massive and inappropriate way. It just keeps going back and forth. It doesn't matter who started it or when it started ... and no one really knows for sure anyway.
If those three Israeli teens hadn't been murdered, then none of this would have happened. The parents of the people who murdered the teens said that they were proud of their child who did the murder. That says a lot about the mentality of the Palestinians over there. The excessive retaliation by Israel says a lot about the mentality of the Israeli leadership as well.
Frankly .. I think both sides are beyond being able to be deprogrammed of their hate. It's a cesspool. The world should just isolate the entire middle east and not interfere. Let them all bash each other to hell. Whoever is left standing gets the land they are standing on. THE END. The world is sick of the animalistic behavior over there. I doubt many people have any real sympathy for either side in this anymore. That was lost long ago. (again .. in my opinion)
originally posted by: buster2010
So the Palestinians were supposed to happy that half their nation was stolen from them and given to a bunch of people that had no ties with the land?
There is absolutely no way that Israel is not the cause of all of this.
originally posted by: daaskapital
that it doesn't really matter who started it, as both sides are clearly in the wrong.
I just wish both sides had calmer heads, and weren't so overly brutal in condoning murderous activities.
I think you speak the truth regarding the hate displayed by both sides. It is too far gone to be repaired.
the only way i can see this situation being repaired, is if Israel and Palestine agree to a two state solution,
originally posted by: buster2010
Israel needs to start electing people that want peace instead of people who keep screaming kill kill kill.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
That would be a good start. I don't see it being able to work. But then again, I'm a jaded grumpy old lady and have lost patience with all of them over there. Honestly, I really don't care anymore. I blame their inability to evolve past the bronze age mentality of their 'god chose us' mentality. Both sides have it. And religion is a hard thing to fight against ...
Common sense says - don't do it. (common sense - something severely lacking in the middle east). I think Seagull said it best
Well .. if Hamas would stop firing rockets at Israel, then Israel wouldn't have a reason to shoot back.
originally posted by: EternalSolace
a reply to: FlyersFan
That's exactly the point. I don't understand what is so difficult to understand about Hamas being a terrorist organization. If Hamas was sitting on a border next to the US and were launching rockets, into say Texas, they'd be obliterated. If you ask me, the Palestinians would be much better off without Hamas ruling over them.