Why so many threads about Gay people?

originally posted by: knoledgeispower

originally posted by: OptimusSubprime
a reply to: flammadraco

What's wrong with threads about happy people? Now it's the threads about those disgusting sodomites that I don't really care for.

You know it's funny how you think that LGBTQ are "disgusting sodomites" when in the U.S it is legal in 23 states for people to have sex with a horse. Now that is disgusting.

There is nothing wrong with sodomy, you should try it some time. Seriously!! There are tons of nerve endings there so many people find it pleasurable and a lot of them that enjoy it are heterosexuals!! Even the porn industry reflects trends in main stream sexuality and that is why it has become more prevalent, because people enjoy it.

You should know the term sodomite is used incorrectly by the religious institutions of the world...

It does not, can not mean gay... the crime of Sodom was not being gay... they were violent rapists

The Abrahamic religions twisted the meaning to promoting hatred of something they didn't understand...

A sodomite is a rapist, not a homosexual

Perhaps because its an issue that matters to people.

Just my guess.

a reply to: Akragon

Your problem is that you have read the bible too thoroughly.

Next time, skim over parts and mistranslate the rest until it fills your own personal needs. That's how you do it.

Note:

Every time I hear someone bring up sodom and gomm. in reference to gays I cringe because they haven't read that part of the bible yet are quoting it. Oh and just in case no one knows what it's about...here's the brick testament link to the chapter for your viewing pleasure:

www.thebricktestament.com...

Edit: Found the judges story so nm on that.

This is what is taught to children as a moral authority.

a reply to: OrphanApology

Actually I pride myself on reading the bible too thoroughly... its not a problem, its my pleasure to be honest...

Someone has to set Christians straight...

the churches of the world can't seem to do it... so if I don't who will?

a reply to: Akragon

Check out the Brick Testament website, you'll enjoy it.

a reply to: Akragon


How entertaining is it when someone who spouts about their self righteous piety and tris to back up their ignorance with bible quotes gets royally spanked by one of us non believers who actually know their book better than they do. Maybe I'm petty and immature but it amuses me to no end how flustered they get.

a reply to: peter vlar

Well brother... I am not even close to a "non-believer"

In fact i know God exists... But you must understand a good portion of christians don't actually read their bible... They read what they're told to by their church...

There are large chunks of the bible that you'll never hear in any church...

They simply regurgitate what they're taught... And its rarely from the gospels themselves

Its actually quite sad that the person the "faith" is based around gets little attention... While the rest of the book gets plenty...

a reply to: Akragon

I sincerely apologize for the mistake and insinuation.

from that perspective then, don't you find it terribly ironic that those who most readily quote scripture not only don't seem to know most of it, but as you said, seem to completely ignore the message of Christ. It always blows my mind when self professed Christians quote heavily from the OT and completely ignore the NT.

Again, sorry for the error regarding your personal faith. I didn't mean to drag you down with us agnostics lol

Fr what it's worth, whether I believe or not I think the real message of Christ is beautiful and a great way to live. I just don't accept that he's a demigod or earthly personification of the Abrahamic deity.

a reply to: peter vlar

I sincerely apologize for the mistake and insinuation.

Theres no need to apologise...

from that perspective then, don't you find it terribly ironic that those who most readily quote scripture not only don't seem to know most of it, but as you said, seem to completely ignore the message of Christ.

Actually I find it terribly sad that the people who are supposed to follow Christ are usually the least "Christ like"

Again, sorry for the error regarding your personal faith. I didn't mean to drag you down with us agnostics lol

And again, theres no need to apologise... I hold no man, woman or child any higher then the next... Agnostics, Atheists, believers and the like all have their place... Though admittedly I do dislike what Christianity turns people into in most cases... but there are exceptions to the rule...

There are a good many Christians who have this amazing God given super power... Which is called "the logical mind"... Those that see though the garbage usually come out better off...

Fr what it's worth, whether I believe or not I think the real message of Christ is beautiful and a great way to live. I just don't accept that he's a demigod or earthly personification of the Abrahamic deity.

Very true... and in fact theres no need to think of him as "God in the flesh", he didn't say that anyways.... john Did...

I prefer to think of him as the example left for us to understand...

Or as he called himself, The truth, the life... and the way

a reply to: blupblup

And hypocritical pseudo-intellectual liberals cannot shut up about christians and conservatives?
They are obsessed....

At least, some are.

There are people who do not paint others with a wide sweeping brushstroke... therein lie the hypocrisy. Bigoted statements calling others bigots by people who believe themselves to be open minded, but the reality is their bigotry is just of a different nature.

I know some conservatives that are actually more open minded than some so-called liberals I know. Understand the concept of yin & yang?

a reply to: knoledgeispower

Ironic no? I hope people actually understood the humor of the whole post... You, at the very least, came very close.

originally posted by: NthOther
Gay is the new Jew. You can't be critical of the lifestyle, or their methods of coercing acceptance, to the slightest degree without incurring absolute demonization and being stigmatized as an evil "homophobe" (a derogatory label that has nothing to do with fear).

I know that probably pisses a lot of people off, but it's true. Gay is now a rhetorically-protected class (it's socially unacceptable to display any public disapproval/disagreement), which may embolden them to speak more forcefully than they have in the past, as well as cause resentment in the straight population.

The "issue" (as unfortunate as it is that we even have to call it that) is becoming more emotionally charged on both sides of the fence. That's probably one factor in the increasing frequency and intensity of discourse.

Case in point, I now feel obligated to disclose to everyone that I don't have anything against gay people.

See what I mean?

Unfortunately we cannot have a true and honest discourse about many subjects in the US currently. To attempt to do so is to call down the wraith of the PC police amongst others.

Nevermind that in most cases the simple act of discussion just might clear the air and open up avenues that could engage imagination and solution. At least for some... There are some who no matter what discussion were to take place they would maintain their antiquated beliefs. This includes a significant portion of the so-called "liberal" crowd who are as close minded as those they rant against.

But if honest discourse could take place, I cannot help but believe there would in some measurable way be an increase in understanding and perhaps a lessening of bigotry of all kinds. Perhaps we could actually address some of the social problems our country is experiencing, which NO ONE could deny. The problems, unfortunately, remain the invisible elephant in the room. Everyone knows it's there, but no one wishes to talk about it.

a reply to: peter vlar

From one who is not religious by any definition, let me just say one thing:

People like you make me proud to be human. To get warm and fuzzies from belittling others and trying to destroy their belief system such as you do... well... all I can say is Hurrah! Such a fine example of liberal human open minded acceptance of those who believe or act differently than yours.

After all...those bigots who cannot accept anyone who believes differently then themselves have such small closed-minds that we really must do everything we possibly can to shout them down.

Oh...wait.

Isn't that the same kind of thinking that some people exhibit against those of other races or lifestyles?

Hmmmm

Because they love to bring attention to themselves, and it's not OK unless EVERYBODY believes as they do.

I don't reckon I'll organize a hetero sexual pride parade any day soon.

I do my business in the bedroom, don't talk about it and it's nobody's business.

To bad they can't be the same way.

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: knoledgeispower

Ironic no? I hope people actually understood the humor of the whole post... You, at the very least, came very close.

I'm not sure why you are saying something isn't ironic when I didn't mention anything about irony.

I thought your post was pretty funny but I wasn't sure if you were being serious about questioning the Q in LGBTQ. I also wanted to clear up the Queer term because some people do get it wrong & I wasn't sure if you knew or not.

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: peter vlar

From one who is not religious by any definition, let me just say one thing:

People like you make me proud to be human. To get warm and fuzzies from belittling others and trying to destroy their belief system such as you do... well... all I can say is Hurrah! Such a fine example of liberal human open minded acceptance of those who believe or act differently than yours.

After all...those bigots who cannot accept anyone who believes differently then themselves have such small closed-minds that we really must do everything we possibly can to shout them down.

Oh...wait.

Isn't that the same kind of thinking that some people exhibit against those of other races or lifestyles?

Hmmmm

In all fairness there's a big difference between destroying someomes belief system and calling them out for incorrectly attributing things to scripture that are false. I do not go out of my way to disrespect anyone or belittle them for believing somethimg different than I do, I'm simply pointing out the error of the arguments based on scripture. And I fully admit that its a pretty childish response to feel good about knowing the bible better than those who claim to follow the good book but truth is truth and more often than not they misquote or just plain make things up. Isn't that now we learn? I know that I've been wrong about things on this board and I appreciate it when the real answer is pointed out to me because it broadens my knowledge base.

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: knoledgeispower

originally posted by: OptimusSubprime
a reply to: flammadraco

What's wrong with threads about happy people? Now it's the threads about those disgusting sodomites that I don't really care for.

You know it's funny how you think that LGBTQ are "disgusting sodomites" when in the U.S it is legal in 23 states for people to have sex with a horse. Now that is disgusting.

There is nothing wrong with sodomy, you should try it some time. Seriously!! There are tons of nerve endings there so many people find it pleasurable and a lot of them that enjoy it are heterosexuals!! Even the porn industry reflects trends in main stream sexuality and that is why it has become more prevalent, because people enjoy it.

You should know the term sodomite is used incorrectly by the religious institutions of the world...

It does not, can not mean gay... the crime of Sodom was not being gay... they were violent rapists

The Abrahamic religions twisted the meaning to promoting hatred of something they didn't understand...

A sodomite is a rapist, not a homosexual

Thank you for telling me the proper meaning of Sodomites.

When I did go to church they didn't teach the proper meaning of Sodomites & growing up it was always about people who enjoyed anal sex.

a reply to: mwood

Does that make you feel better? and if i agree with you than what?

Question: people who wear crosses or religious Clothing or have Religions Tattoos are you okay with that because they are using their "Freedom of religion and speech"?

is it safe to say that anyone who says "God bless" is considered an attention seeking whore who doesn't deserve to be treated like a fellow person?


i mean, get your life gurl and think what you want, i just wish people wouldn't say ignorant statements

a reply to: knoledgeispower

the "Ironic no?" statement is a question...same as if I had asked: Ironic, amiright? .. that kinda thing. No mention of you implying irony...that was me implying irony lol

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: knoledgeispower

the "Ironic no?" statement is a question...same as if I had asked: Ironic, amiright? .. that kinda thing. No mention of you implying irony...that was me implying irony lol

Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't sure if you had gotten a different post mixed up with mine.