Gold Produced From Ground Up Beer Bottles

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist

originally posted by: Grimpachi

Oh yes you can. I have done it.

Just watch the stupid video - please.

If you had watched the video you would see exactly how stupid it is.

0:55 "Josef has been outed as a modern-day alchemist for over 20 years" — and yet he is still messing about in a wooden shack.

1:04 "The process starts by wet-grinding beer bottle glass in a hammer mill" — I thought WeAreOne said it needs high-tech specialist equipment? That is an off the shelf mill.

3:25 "The waste products that we use for our sees ores contain absolutely zero parts per billion trace elements" — WTF? It is brown glass, processed through an old hammer mill into a rusty bucket. There's going to be all sorts of trace elements there. If you want to use pure silica then don't use old beer bottles!

5:00 "200 to 400 ounces per ton". How much ground glass was in that bucket at the start? At least five pounds by the look of it. So that should be half to one ounce of gold right there, call it $1000. And yet...

5:30 "We are using kitchen microwave ovens here... When we have the funding and support we will be able to use specialist equipment..."

Dude! You've just turned a bucket of ground glass into a thousand bucks. You HAVE the funding.

What a clown this Burger guy is.

WeAreOne: you said the people who can do this process are "the wealthiest people on the planet". Why is Burger working in a shed using off-the-shelf microwaves?

a reply to: Rob48

come on bro laugh a minute what if the porn industry said they made anal beads out of aluminum cans...


come on dude you know that was kind of funny

originally posted by: Rob48

I thought you said that science was total rubbish and that those of us with science she trees were "slaves" being fed rubbish? Now suddenly it suits you to believe it? Keep trying.

The forumula is simple:

Does the science agree with me opinion?

a) Yes - it's good science!

b) No - it's part of the mainstream's disinfo!

The guy with the know how is old, holds numerous patents and has a verfied work history (with associated pensions etc) yet he wants individuals to invest 25K?

That means you need 40 investors just to get to a million dollars.

Call me skeptical but if I was an old man with patents/a successful past and I could transmute glass to gold I wouldn't be looking for piddly 25K punts from single investors.

Sell House and cash in everything you own (surely this guy is richer than the average kickstart funder)
Demonstrate massive return on investment to family and friends using money from house sale
They sell their homes and everything they own based on results and money is invested
Everyone you know who invested becomes a multi millionaire in a year.
Live happily ever after without a random bunch of investors telling you what to do.

No need to analyze the science when the monetary aspect is so wonky.

originally posted by: WeAre0ne
a reply to: oblvion

You obviously don't know how to read correctly, and you obviously didn't watch the movie, so you just made a fool of yourself.

Because I showed easily how, they dont need any kickstarter money.

Meaning this is a scam to get the gullible( this would be you here) to send him $25,000.

I have already seen this scam before, here is how it goes.

" King Abadaba of the republic of Somalia, is under extreme pressure to move cash assets out of the country, as it is in a civil war.

He cannot transfer it into another country without a bank account, and the transfer fees have to come from the country it is being transferred to.

The King wants to move $7,000,000 U.S., he will give you $1,000,000 U.S. If you pay the $4,000 transfer fee, we just need you to pay the fee, and to send us your routing numbers for your accounts, and some personal info.

We eagerly await your reply, you must hurry though, as many are willing to take this deal, if you dont hurry you will be left out.

Thank you for your time my friend,

Lokhama Abdula, Secretary of the treasury, Republic of Somalia"

This is what your buying into, just like all the other idiots that fall for this BS.

Honestly I couldnt care if you believe it or you send the guy your money, as it wont effect me, just remeber.......


OBLVION TRIED TO WARN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We shall see who has made themselves look stupid, I bet you my next pay check it isnt me.

originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: Rob48

come on bro laugh a minute what if the porn industry said they made anal beads out of aluminum cans...


come on dude you know that was kind of funny

BASTARD!!!!! you made me spit out BEEER!!!!!

It was very well timed for me as well.

So then if they agree with you, it is good science, but if it disagrees it is mainstrem science BS?

Ok thanks just checking.

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist
According to Blue Eagle Refiners Inc, they can produce up to 400oz of pure gold from 1 ton of empty beer bottles. Their process and rate of gold production far exceeds the production rates of the best gold mines.

Assuming these guys are legit, that pretty much puts the gold standard out of running contention for any future monetary system. A large part of what makes gold worth so much is its rarity. If it can be produced cheaper than nickle, say goodbye to its long term value.

Thank God we have Bitcoin and Darkcoin now.

vimeo.com...

Amazing Alchemical Gold Making Technology eclipses what is popularly known in science and produces gold from barren artificial seed ores under LENR conditions. Bottom line is the proof is in the metal and as a former sceptic myself I can appreciate that position. What has been surprising in sharing the development story is how many of these authoritative fools dismiss the possibility, without even looking at the data. Notwithstanding the objections from the conventional scientific perspective, we do in fact have a proven precious metal making technology, US Patent Pending, and we see an executable technology pathway to industrial smelter scale with precious metal production price points near that of Aluminum.

Kitco recently did an article on them here. Kitco is a HIGHLY REPUTABLE precious metals news website.

It's also worth noting that this discovery undermines the standard model of cosmological element production. However, it fits neatly within the framework of plasma cosmology.

Thanks for lifting this word for word from another forum. www.thunderbolts.info...

I didn't real all the replies... but if you believe this claim, you are gullible. This is coming from a somewhat gullible guy, too.

Two days ago, Burger wrote, "While the Treveri due diligence dragged on we came to an JV funding agreement for $10.0 million with a Zurich based Nanotechnology leader(set to close in July). " JV stands for joint venture.

I guess we will see who gets the last laugh.

Assuming the deal closes, he will have the funds needed to scale up his production process. Since he's dealing with a nanotech firm, they probably have the R&D lab resources he needs at his disposal as well.

originally posted by: yeahright

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Alchemy? Blue Eagle Refiners, Martin Burger. That's enough right there to start with some due diligence. Brief search will uncover he's previously advertised gold making microsmelt lab equipment on ebay. He's also had a kickstarter account and is soliciting for investors around the 'net.

Nothing wrong with any of that, but makes me personally wonder how a guy with a proven concept of pulling gold out of beer bottles would need to go hat in hand for backers. Looks very magic bean-ish to me.

Maybe it's just me.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

I have to agree. The transmuting baser materials into gold scam is an oldie but a goodie.

originally posted by: WeAre0ne
a reply to: Rob48

No it is not. Believe it or not this has been done for many years. It has been hidden from public view by the Vatican and other powerful entities because the entire monetary system depended on precious metals, and plus it was considered witchcraft.

There are alternative scientific theories that explains all of this. Many of which are ignored by mainstream science because it would cause them to have to rethink everything.

It's simple really... and a Magnetic Theory Of Everything can explain it all. You can try to explain it with current theory, but you would have to change a few things.

All atoms and molecules are tiny magnets. So are all electrons and protons and neutrons. They are all tiny magnets. The only difference between any two elements is the amount of magnets that are connected, and how they are connected (the shape). The only difference between a silicon atom and gold a atom is 65 magnets.

The neat thing about magnets is that when you make them cold, the magnetic force gets stronger. When you heat them up, their magnetic force gets weaker. That is the alternative way to explain why cold makes water turn to ice, and hot makes it liquid then gas. The magnetic connection between the water molecules is stronger in the cold, and weaker in the hot, so its a solid structure when cold, and not solid when hot. Because mainstream science has a different opinion of this, they are lead in the wrong direction. A key point here is that materials have a Curie Temperature.

Now when they heat up the glass, they weaken the magnets so that they can be moved around and aligned. That is when they put it in the microwave. They use the electromagnetic radiation at a certain frequency (Larmor Frequency) to align the magnets in a certain fashion. They will stay in that alignment as it cools down. They they pour it in water to lock the magnetic alignment in place...

They are literally connecting and disconnecting subatomic magnets using heat and electromagnetism, similar to the way a child with a basic magnet set would.

Because science doesn't understand these simple processes, and they believe it takes huge amount of energy to do these atomic alignments (because their incorrect theories and one sided math equations tell them so) they will never accept this fact. They will always believe the gold on Earth was formed using huge amounts of force and energy, and not simply eased into existence with little effort...

Magma and magnetic force...

Wow. You got it al--Vatican conspiracies and a zero understanding of elementary physics and chemistry.

originally posted by: ParasuvO
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask


WoW, he just told you why Genius, because these things are stifled, from the public view and always have been, and by those who may not even be human..

But you scoff, lol you would scoff at anything that you cannot see, IE everything important.

The very fact that we're talking about it and the guy is begging for money in an open way on the internet is actually evidence that goes against what you just said.

originally posted by: WeAre0ne

originally posted by: Rob48
You are talking to someone with a masters degree in chemistry. Cut out the pseudoscience and Atomic Structure For Dummies nonsense.

If you only knew who you were talking too...

Congratulations on getting a masters degree in chemistry. Chemistry is the art of not knowing whats going on, but knowing how to make it happen.

It's funny how people like you think there can only be one explanation to it all. No way can there ever be another explanation which not only predicts and describes scientific laws with more accuracy, but explains everything.

Anything that doesn't match that book you paid good money to memorize is pseudoscience... keep thinking that. You'll go a short way in a long time.

originally posted by: Rob48
You cannot turn beer bottles into gold. All you will do is lose your money to scammers seeking "investment". Save your cash and don't listen to this BS.

You cannot turn beer bottles into gold? Wow, thanks for proving to everyone you have no idea what you are talking about.

It is a fact that you can turn beer bottles into gold. It is a fact you can also turn dirt into gold. Oxygen into gold. Water into gold. Electricity into gold. You can turn ANYTHING into gold, and that is a fact. The only question is how much or how little energy is required to do so, and exactly what method you want to use (because there are many methods).

"If you only knew who you were talking to..."

LOL, mystic alchemy master?

No, you can't turn "dirt" into gold. It is not a fact. You need evidence to call something a "fact."

Where's Hudson Hawk when you need him? If you buy into this I know a Nigerian prince you might want to talk to

originally posted by: WeAre0ne

originally posted by: JohnnyAnonymous
I remember about 15 years back scientist's made claims that for every square meter of seawater there was about an ounce of nano-particulate gold (amongst other metals and minerals too). But the process to get said commodities out of that 3ft x 3ft bit of ocean is not cost-effective (or efficiently done for that matter).

Although one day I would assume that someone will invent an device for those extractions to see fruition.

How about I show you how...

Just use a gold anode and cathode instead of silver.

You want free electricity to do this? I can explain to you how to get free energy from sound... yeah, that constant never ending free sound.

Okay, Oh mystic one, we now know that you know nothing about what you speak. In that elementary school experiment, nothing is "grown" in that the silver is not being created from another element, it is being brought out from the electrolyte solution where it already exists.

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist
Two days ago, Burger wrote, "While the Treveri due diligence dragged on we came to an JV funding agreement for $10.0 million with a Zurich based Nanotechnology leader(set to close in July). " JV stands for joint venture.

I guess we will see who gets the last laugh.

Assuming the deal closes, he will have the funds needed to scale up his production process. Since he's dealing with a nanotech firm, they probably have the R&D lab resources he needs at his disposal as well.

It should be easy to confirm. What's the name of the "nanotechnology firm?"

Oh, he didn't mention the name. Usually when a reputable business looking for investors discusses partnerships and joint ventures, they tend to be a wee more specific than "a (fill in the blank) tech firm in Zurich (nice touch, that makes it all more official and scientific sounding than say, Manchester.) A quick search does not come up with any Nanotechnology firms in Zurich. Anières, Liestal, Neuchâtel, Rüschliko, Sevelen, and Sion but no Zurich. I did see IBM Zurich listed as a non-tech but I'd think that if they had Big Blue on the line, they'd be crowing about it by name because that would lend them a heck of a lot of credibility.

a reply to: NavyDoc

Just a few of the nanotech companies based in Zurich.


www.nanowerk.com...

www.nanowerk.com...

www.nanowerk.com...

www.nanowerk.com...

www.nanowerk.com...

www.nanowerk.com...

www.nanowerk.com...


It just so happens that one of those companies is a venture capital firm that specializes in this kind of funding. In their "about" section, they note that they are specifically targeting disruptive technologies for venture funding.

nanodimension.com...

NanoDimension invests in companies that use break-through nanotechnology to solve critical problems and become global leaders in the life science, electronic and energy sectors.

Working at the atomic & molecular level gives science a new level of control over matter. This new level of control allows us to harness the change in physical properties at the nano-scale and is opening up huge commercial opportunities.

In order to capture these opportunities, break-through science must be translated into a disruptive technology. This requires both a fundamental understanding of science and deep engineering expertise. If we combine disruptive technology with an outstanding team, a laser-focused business model and sufficient capital, we can achieve a revolution in the marketplace and reap the financial rewards. This is why NanoDimension was started – to move break-through nanotechnology from lab to fab to market.

We support our entrepreneurs at every critical point in the life of a company. In addition to NanoDimension’s equity investments, we have helped raise hundreds of millions of dollars for our portfolio companies.

It wouldn't surprise me if they had their people come out and validate his process. These guys sound like they are all about the bleeding-edge. No one is going to hand over 10 million without doing their homework first.

a reply to: WeAre0ne

Grinding the glass into a powder will cause it to heat up and melt much faster.

I also stated there are other reasons for grinding the glass down... but it's obvious you wont figure out those other reasons if you don't even know basic science / thermodynamics.

You know you seem to have completely ignored the fact the sludge they are adding to help the grinding process would act as an insulator therefore requiring longer times to reach a molten state.

If you are going to go on about thermal dynamics you should at least know what you are talking about.

So just stop making stuff up.

If there are other reasons for grinding the glass down enlighten us because your claim that the purpose is to speed the heating process to a molten state is completely bogus as I have just explained.

Again don't just make stuff up. If you don't know just say so.

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist
Two days ago, Burger wrote, "While the Treveri due diligence dragged on we came to an JV funding agreement for $10.0 million with a Zurich based Nanotechnology leader(set to close in July). " JV stands for joint venture.

I guess we will see who gets the last laugh.

Assuming the deal closes, he will have the funds needed to scale up his production process. Since he's dealing with a nanotech firm, they probably have the R&D lab resources he needs at his disposal as well.

Your position "monetarily" speaking is dumb.

If his making 400 OZ of gold per ton of brown glass is even half true he has many times more cash flow than he would ever need.

He would not need money if he could create gold..........duh!!!!!!!!!

PLZ dont blindly follow anything, if ATS has taught me anything, it is if it seems too good to be true, it obviously is too good to be true dumbass.