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Onslaught2996
reply to post by doubletap
Now who is being ignorant..
You know very well what a gun sole intent is for.
Tell me why did you buy a gun..for protection? If it is to be used as such would you shoot to kill or injure. If kill then, is that not why you bought it..to end life?
daskakik
reply to post by macman
You are completely ignoring half of the amendment. The half that does mention the militia.
edit on 26-3-2014 by daskakik because: (no reason given)
While guns can be used for perfectly legitimate recreational use (like sport shooting or hunting), the gun’s main purpose is to kill – nothing more.
There’s this little gem. Guns don’t kill people, people do. (Had to be an ad exec somewhere behind that one.)
“Cars kills thousands of people every month, cars aren’t made illegal. Smoking kills, that’s legal. Alcohol kills, that’s legal.”
Blah blah blah.
So here’s a question. What is the purpose of a car? Is it to pile into a crowded bus stop and wipe out everyone? I
s alcohol designed to give everyone cirrhosis of the liver?
Are cigarettes designed to destroy anyone who lights up? (Well, maybe, but that’s not what the manufacturers say.) Conversely, is a gun designed to hold a flower in the barrel, or to be used as a prop in family photos? It can be, but the primary use for a gun is to kill things.
Bassago
However the bottom line in both defense or offense the final result it to completely eliminate the threat, most often this result's in the targets death. Which is the point.
You can't support it and be in favor of registration.
And no, no it did not deal with forming militias. It is very very clear in the text.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
“guns don’t kill people, people kill people.”
Yes, it’s true — a trigger without someone to pull it will never induce carnage. But many triggers that can unleash many rounds make killing many people much easier and more likely.
The same can’t be said for other potential methods of mayhem, which leads us to another fallacious argument — that we shouldn’t regulate guns further because sociopaths bent on violence will always find a way.
They could use a car or a knife or a baseball bat. But cars, knives and baseball bats have valuable, primary uses and are not designed first and foremost as killing machines. Used correctly, they don’t kill people. A gun that kills somebody, however, is merely achieving its ultimate, intended purpose.
Let me let all the gun zealots in on a little secret — we all completely understand what you mean by “Guns don’t kill people, people do.” We’re not idiots. Yes, a gun does not kill anyone of its own volition
doubletap
reply to post by ownbestenemy
Care to answer my question on the bottom of page 5?
To begin with, so long as the Second Amendment seems strikingly unusual -- so long as it appears to be the only provision with a justification clause -- people will naturally wonder whether this oddity is some sort of signal
...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country; but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military services in person.
Kali74
The text between the 2nd comma and the last comma should be considered as something like a side note or clarification, much like we use parenthesis. A free State can only exist if it can defend itself and can only defend itself if it is armed.
The intention of our forefathers (again by noting the preceding debates) was to guarantee that Congress could not legislate away each State's ability to defend itself with their own militias. I wonder how well in tact individual State's rights would be today had their intention remained the focus.