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CagliostroTheGreat
reply to post by SecretKnowledge
Mine was short and to the point but Mr. Friedman must have missed it... I was quite disappointed. Didn't help that others were spamming their own questions and even asking multiple questions after their original was already answered and addressed, including a mod or two.
I am a physicist. I don't what I can do about reptilians. I have heard some stories but not much else. I look for evidence.. data. I am not a social worker. Not all stories told with a UFO connection are true.
olaru12
reply to post by SecretKnowledge
I really wasn't surprised that my one line, to the point and concise question was ignored.
There are some questions that so called experts in UFOlogy avoid like the plague. They know the answer but don't want anyone else know they know.
The GUT
reply to post by Snarl
Yeah, I noticed. You were gentle & diplomatic, but still ignored.
Did you learn anything? Me neither.
999zxcv
i just got a blank reply back from stan when i asked him about the events over washinton in 52
why did he even bother maybe he was pissed i said from one former busboy to another
who friggin knows
schuyler
I saw that exchange and figured Friedman DID answer, but he lost it and thought it went through. He's obviously not familiar with the format, or of typing, or of forum mechanics such as quoting. I wouldn't take that one personally. I think he just screwed up and didn't know it.
schuyler
999zxcv
i just got a blank reply back from stan when i asked him about the events over washinton in 52
why did he even bother maybe he was pissed i said from one former busboy to another
who friggin knows
I saw that exchange and figured Friedman DID answer, but he lost it and thought it went through. He's obviously not familiar with the format, or of typing, or of forum mechanics such as quoting. I wouldn't take that one personally. I think he just screwed up and didn't know it.
Hello Mr. Friedman.
I have read your books, listened to your lectures and interviews and respect your position. However, I remain unconvinced of ET. My current thinking is that since this is a phenomenon based almost entirely on subjective accounts or memories of perceptions, this should be in the realm of psychology, neuroscience and related fields that deal with human perception. It seems to me that there is a lack of input from these fields.
my question would be in what direction could you point me in to convince me otherwise and does thinking like that make me noisy and negative?
Me again
If ET made themselves known to everyone do you think the human race could handle it? or would we just panic and all go a bit mental?.
I imagine the galactic federation has rules about an advanced civilization interfering with ours... a primitive society whose major activity is tribal warfare. I don't think our society would panic.. every government would want to get its hands on the saucers for military purposes. We are not equals with our visitors. Remember the planet is 4 billion years old but our civilization is only thousands
I am calling it a day until tomorrow
Greetings and welcome to ATS, the best site on the Internet!
My question for you is this:
In regards to UFO research, Jacques Vallee has been quoted as saying:
What have I learned? (1) The phenomenon is real but it offers multiple levels. (2) No simple extraterrestrial explanation fits the facts. (3) The governments of the U.S., Mexico and France have a keen level of interest (and the Russian and U.K. as well) but no scientific research project seems to exist. (4) Some of the brightest people in Intelligence get involved but the real data must be hidden at a different level. (5) Much of the official involvement is directed at faking data, not at discovering the truth. (6) Animal mutilations are real but probably unrelated to UFOs. (7) No solution will be found by mediocre, amateurish research.
Have you seen any evidence of this?
That is data faking, and if so do you have an idea of why that might be the preferred response?
Couple of points.. don't know anything about data faking, but do know that government officials have flat out lied. Secretary of the USAF Donald Quarles made the following statement in an official press release in October 1955 "On the basis of this study we believe that no objects such as those popularly described as flying saucers have overflown the United States. Even the Unknown three persent could have been identified as conventional phenomena or illusions if more complete observational data had been available". This was a flat out lie the data in the study to which he was referring (but did not name--Blue Book Special Report No. 14)) showed that 21.5% of the 3201 cases could not be explained completely separate from the 9.3%listed as insufficient Information .The better the quality of the signting the more likely to be unidentified, etc etc. Colonel Weaver and his associates grossly misrepresented the Roswell Incident with both the Mogul and crash test dummy explanations. None of the dummies were dropped until 6 years after Roswell. they were 6' tall and weighed 175 pounds and were in flight gear!! I met with the colonel who had been incharge of the program. there are many other lies.
I think there are several reasons for the coverup:
1. Everybody wants to determine how they work so new technology can be used for military purposes.Theymake excellent weapons delivery and defense systems. We have wreckage from Roswell, Aztec, and the Plains of San Agustin. You cannot tell your friends withour telling your enemies. They read the papers do.
2. Each country worries about its enemies learning proipulsion secrets before they do.Don't want those other guys to know what they know.
3. If an announcement were to be made.. say by the queen and the pope.Consider the consequences. Church attendance and mental hospital admissions up, the stock market down, and a push by the younger generation towards an earthling orientation. No government wants that.Nationalism is the only game in town.
4.Certain fundamentalists such as Pat Robertson insist that all the intelligent life in the Universe is here on earth which was created in 4004 BC and UFOs are the work of the devil, so nobody out there much more advanced than we are.
5. Some insist that if aliens are visiting and undoubtedly more advanced than we are. If we develop more advancd energy production, and a ground transport technique there would be economic disasters.(I have no pity on buggy whip manufacturers.
6. I have heard 7 different stories about military pilots being sent aloft to chase UFOs (the order was "ShootThem down if they don't land when instructed to do so..back in 1952) and not returning. Can't admit that.
The thing with Friedman is that he's an old-school Ufologist, a traditionalist.
I still have high hopes that Dan Akyroyd will be a guest
SecretKnowledge
reply to post by missvicky
if you click on the "reply to post by missvicky" at the top of this post it will bring you to your post.
So during the AMA do the same and you will be brought back to the question that was asked...edit on 13/3/14 by SecretKnowledge because: (no reason given)