Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

ManiShuck

Bilk22You didn't even read your link correctly. Only nine were not on the flight. If they arrived in Bejing safely they would have to return that way. If the plane is missing, so are they.

Hey it's just a hypothesis. No one so far has an answer, do they?

I guess I mis-read it. Still, they were going to Beijing anyways. It would have been a lot less risky to kidnap them there than to steal an entire 777 (and somehow not have any mayday call, radar blip or eyewitnesses at the airport). Though yea, it would have been an obvious kidnapping, but did they think people wouldn't realize who was on the plane and question why zero evidence of plane was found?

You also have to think that if something happened (like people taking control of the plane) then the pilots would have sent out a signal. Why wasn't that done? If someone did successfully take over the plane without a signal being sent then why didn't any passengers call someone? Apparently their phones are still in working condition (which makes the whole thing even stranger, as if they were abducted and taken to China you would think they would destroy the phones or power them off, and if the plane was destroyed then the phones would also be destroyed).

Why are missing passenger's mobile phones still ringing?

At least one relative of a Chinese passenger on board the missing flight has successfully been able to ring his mobile phone - but nobody answers.

Eerie video footage emerged of the family of the missing man ringing his phone live on state television.

The call connected, but no one picked up.

A group of passengers have reportedly handed a petition to Malaysia Airlines to reveal "the real truth" about what happened to the flight.

malaysiandigest.com...

Of course, it's entirely possible that person forgot his phone somewhere, but couldn't the cell company check data for that number/phone to see where it is?

I do agree that something is weird with this, but I just cannot hop on the wagon of it being taken control of Chinese citizens/government and secretly landing at a somewhat busy international airport (27th busiest in China).

It almost seems more like Malaysia had something to do with it than China. How long was it before they announced they had lost the plane? Something like 6 1/2 hours?

edit on 9-3-2014 by ManiShuck because: (no reason given)

Well as I said it's just a theory or soemthing of the kind

A cell phone number would still ring even if the phone was destroyed. Why is that a mystery? Am I missing something?

reply to post by Bilk22


At least you have your head skewed on.

reply to post by Bilk22


In the cases where I've tried calling someone who turned their phone off, it always went straight to voicemail. Same with if they are out of range of a signal, it goes straight to voicemail.

lonewolf2
reply to post by Bilk22

 

At least you have your head skewed on.

Maybe it is indeed "skewed" LOL

I like your screen name. I used it a long time ago before there was an internet to post about how much we don't know. But that's another story

reply to post by Zaphod58


Hey zaphod...

U are the airman of ATS! What is your take on all of this? Lost plane or something more sinister?

ManiShuck
reply to post by Bilk22

 

In the cases where I've tried calling someone who turned their phone off, it always went straight to voicemail. Same with if they are out of range of a signal, it goes straight to voicemail.

Ah ok that makes sense. So these phones are ringing normally as if they're still on? Indeed, then that's strange and adds further to the mystery.

JRCrowley

All I'm saying is it's still too early to claim that the plane was taken down by terrorists, and it's funny because in the same thread you get some people claiming it was Muslims and others who claim it was Jews.

Kind of ironic, wouldn't you say?

Well, it maybe too early for you, but experts disagree with you... But then again, everyone is arguably an expert.
Whatever we may suspect (and we do have the freedom to do so, don't we?) it's highly likely the Malaysian intelligence already has Mossad agents in their list of possible saboteurs. The former Malaysian PM, Dr. Mahatir Mohammad was and still is an outspoken critic of the Zionist regime.

"Either you had a catastrophic event that tore the airplane apart, or you had a criminal act," said Scott Hamilton, managing director of aviation consultancy Leeham Co. "It was so quick and they didn't radio."

No matter how unlikely a scenario, it's too early to rule out any possibilities, experts warn. The best clues will come with the recovery of the flight data and voice recorders and an examination of the wreckage. U.S. investigators from the FBI, the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Aviation Administration and experts from Boeing were heading to Asia to assist in the investigation.

Link

reply to post by Bilk22


Definitely, especially since nothing from the plane is being sent. I've since seen that others are able to get calls through, so it would be interesting to know if their voicemail just works differently there or not.

And taking it with a grain of salt, since it is Twitter, there were one or two postings about a family member saying an IM account of a family member on the plane has been logged into/out of the past day.

Then I found this article about a man seeing what may have been the plane, descending at a high speed.

KELANTAN: A businessman in Ketereh claimed that he saw a bright white light, believed to be of an aircraft's, descending at high speed towards the South China Sea via Bachok airspace about 1.45am on the day flight MH370 went missing.
Alif Fathi Abdul Hadi, 29, told the New Straits Times what he saw after lodging a report with the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) in Tok Bali earlier today.
Alif said he was at the compound of his house when he saw the bright white light, which he described as similar to the ones used by airplanes during night flights.
"I was walking towards my house's back door when I caught a glimpse of the white light.
"It was moving towards the sea, towards Bachok area, which was unusual.
"Usually, aircrafts that fly over here have their usual route pattern, but this one went completely towards the other way," he said.
Alif said he watched the light's movement for about five minutes, before realising that it was descending.
However, he said he was not sure that it was an airplane as he only saw the light.
He said there was no blinking red light.
"I did not think much about it, and went to sleep.
"Only the next day, when I heard the news on the radio, I thought that the light I saw could be of the aircraft's.
"After discussing with my family members, they advised me to lodge a report, and I hope this information can be of any help," he said.
Alif was accompanied by his uncle Rosman Ishak, 55, when he lodged the report.

www.nst.com.my...

Drawing comparisons to Air France flight 447, although I'm not familiar if they have similar 'emergency' specs on, but Air France 447 was able to automatically send messages regarding system failure (air speed, altitude, direction and even loss of cabin pressure).

So, IF MH370 HAS SIMILAR 'EMERGENCY' FEATURES, it would have been a sudden phenomena that overwhelmed such an experienced captain and crew and a reliable plane.

The Guardian has just referenced the China Digital Times in leaking a directive from the Chinese Government restricting independent analysis or comment in reporting by the media on the incident. Notable:

www.theguardian.com...

chinadigitaltimes.net...

news.com.au

REPORTS are breaking that Vietnam is sending helicopters to investigate a floating "yellow object", believed to be a possible life-raft of the missing Malaysian plane. Bomb 'most likely explanation' | The questions to be answered

could be incredible tale of survival if true

Macquarie
The Guardian has just referenced the China Digital Times in leaking a directive from the Chinese Government restricting independent analysis or comment in reporting by the media on the incident. Notable:

www.theguardian.com...

chinadigitaltimes.net...

Interesting...
Here is the quote from the Guardian:

China’s central propaganda department appear to have issued a directive to reporters and journalists not to “independently” comment on the flight, and maintain coverage in accordance with the official government news agency

Source

reply to post by combatmaster


I hate to speculate this early. The Triple is a very safe aircraft that has set a safety standard that will be hard to beat.

But it's still an aircraft subject to all the stresses they are all subject to, as well as the failings they can all suffer.

reply to post by Agit8dChop


I wouldn't read too much into it. They have been found floating inflated before, after inflating on their own after impact.

reply to post by dreamingawake


Considering this has a lot more to do with China than the West, with over 150 Chinese aboard, they are actually going about this the right way!!!
No speculation in media would be much better, it's fine for us to speculate, this website isn't influencing millions of people...
But for Western media to keep using words like "terror" without a single fact to base it it's actually just fearmongering, and ironic of The Guardian to use the word "propaganda", considering that's a Western concoction!

All media should take this stance until proof is available!

news.xinhuanet.com...
Thai Navy Search & Rescue Mission Underway!!!


Peace!

nm was edited out.

focustaiwan.tw...

If this is anything to go by, I would speculate that Chinese Military has shot down the plane before it could be used to attack Beijing Airport...

That's purely speculation on my part... and only if this is truly a relevant story to add to the mix of such a mystery!!!

However I cannot find a source from Chinese media, not surprising I guess, that corroborates such threats being made!!!


Peace!


Edit: New Source!!!

Excerpt from m.scmp.com...

A statement by the airline said: "China Airlines on March 4 received calls claiming to provide intelligence on terror organisations, referring to mainland China, [saying] Beijing airport will have terrorist attacks."




Although I cannot find a direct quotation from Tsai De-Sheng from the original story... still searching!



Peace!

CharlieSpeirs
reply to post by dreamingawake

 

Considering this has a lot more to do with China than the West, with over 150 Chinese aboard, they are actually going about this the right way!!!
No speculation in media would be much better, it's fine for us to speculate, this website isn't influencing millions of people...
But for Western media to keep using words like "terror" without a single fact to base it it's actually just fearmongering, and ironic of The Guardian to use the word "propaganda", considering that's a Western concoction!

All media should take this stance until proof is available!

news.xinhuanet.com...
Thai Navy Search & Rescue Mission Underway!!!


Peace!

Well, don't forget how it does have to do with the West, the American passenger(Philip Wood) and the 20 of the 239 people worked for Austin TX based company.


I don't favor censorship but I do agree on that it's not right to sensationalize.

reply to post by dreamingawake


I was aware of the American gentlemen & the 2(?) infants also... I was judging by numbers really...
However I never knew of the workers previously, thank you for the update, it's been quite a hard thread to keep up with!!!


Sensationalised is the perfect word for it I think...


Peace DA!