Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

Does someone already ask if the last known message "allright, good night" is a correct answer to the asked question?
Let me specify my point, what was the question asked by the ATC that received such answer? I am no expert, but when I listened to previous communications between planes and ATC, they use a lot of coded stuff, aviation language if I may say even for basic talks. In this case, only "allright, good night", could it be some kind of code not to answer exactly accurate to say that something is not ok but you cannot tell it clearly?

Many British ATS members will know...
That on their daily travels to buy their particular brand of Tabloid Newspaper...
There is only one they look at other than their favoured choice...

Whether glazing over headlines of The Mirror if your a fan of The Sun...
Or reaching for The Independent trying to avoid Eye contact with The Daily Mail...
It's almost like a Political Statement... Albeit at the lower end of the "This is where I stand" spectrum!

Everyone however, always has a quick glimpse at the cover of The Daily Sport... It's almost instinct to do so!!!

While purchasing Cigarettes I noticed the Headline of today's Daily Sport... Ignoring the "Big Breasted Lady" protocol this Newspaper has adopted for front page news...

The headline reads "Missing Plane Found On The Moon"!!!

You can imagine how astonished I was that this is not the main headline throughout the Media today!!!

30 Second YouTube Clip Shows "Headline" & "Telescopic Image"

Sadly I didn't purchase the Paper to excerpt quotes & Data!!!
Nor does this particular Tabloid have it's own website...
I can't fathom why though!!!

Well I just thought I'd share this light hearted theory with ATS...

It is a legitimate Newspaper in the UK... Their stories however do not always have a firm attachment to Reality, & I'd be wrong not to share that with you also!!!


Peace MH370 xxx

reply to post by sy.gunson


Little known fact about Mangosteens: "Do not ever get them wet. Keep them away from bright light. And never, ever, ever feed them after midnight!"

CNN is reporting that Malaysia is asking for equipment that can detect deep water pings; briefly, the banner that runs across the bottom of the TV screen read, "Plane may have turned around again."
I could have misread/misheard, however.

source 1: the film Gremlins
source 2: CNN live


UPDATE/Edited (I misheard.) CNN Live said that Thailand tracked a jet that turned around.

CharlieSpeirs
Many British ATS members will know...
That on their daily travels to buy their particular brand of Tabloid Newspaper...
There is only one they look at other than their favoured choice...

Whether glazing over headlines of The Mirror if your a fan of The Sun...
Or reaching for The Independent trying to avoid Eye contact with The Daily Mail...
It's almost like a Political Statement... Albeit at the lower end of the "This is where I stand" spectrum!

Everyone however, always has a quick glimpse at the cover of The Daily Sport... It's almost instinct to do so!!!

While purchasing Cigarettes I noticed the Headline of today's Daily Sport... Ignoring the "Big Breasted Lady" protocol this Newspaper has adopted for front page news...

The headline reads "Missing Plane Found On The Moon"!!!

You can imagine how astonished I was that this is not the main headline throughout the Media today!!!

30 Second YouTube Clip Shows "Headline" & "Telescopic Image"

Sadly I didn't purchase the Paper to excerpt quotes & Data!!!
Nor does this particular Tabloid have it's own website...
I can't fathom why though!!!

Well I just thought I'd share this light hearted theory with ATS...

It is a legitimate Newspaper in the UK... Their stories however do not always have a firm attachment to Reality, & I'd be wrong not to share that with you also!!!


Peace MH370 xxx

They have pulled this before and it appears used a similar headline when they claimed a world war 2 bomber was found on the moon....


Wiki Link here....en.wikipedia.org...

The Daily Sport and Sunday Sport were known for their ridiculous headlines that referred to fabricated stories, such as "World War Two Bomber Found on Moon". Later editorial practice meant an end to such stories and an increased focus on celebrity news and sexual revelations.

reply to post by Vasa Croe


I did see the WWII Bomber headline, I didn't know it was the same picture though!

I should point out I don't believe this in the slightest, I just thought it might cheer people up amongst the Doom & Gloom of this heartbreaking incident!

I guess it was a poor display of comedy, such is my sense of humour!


Peace Vasa!

drwill
reply to post by sy.gunson

 

Little known fact about Mangosteens: "Do not ever get them wet. Keep them away from bright light. And never, ever, ever feed them after midnight!"

CNN is reporting that Malaysia is asking for equipment that can detect deep water pings; briefly, the banner that runs across the bottom of the TV screen read, "Plane may have turned around again."
I could have misread/misheard, however.

source 1: the film Gremlins
source 2: CNN live

edit on 18-3-2014 by drwill because: not enough coffee

UPDATE: No, CNN is discussing the new turnaround. Thailand tracked a jet that turned around and vanished in the area of the Strait of Malacca.

edit on 18-3-2014 by drwill because: (no reason given)

I think this is the same turn as before they are talking about, unless CNN live is talking about something else?

(CNN) -- New information from the Thai government bolsters the belief that missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 took a sharp westward turn after communication was lost.
The Thai military was receiving normal flight path and communication data from the Boeing 777-200 on its planned March 8 route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing until 1:22 a.m., when it disappeared from its radar.
Six minutes later, the Thai military detected an unknown signal, a Royal Thai Air Force spokesman told CNN. This unknown aircraft, possibly Flight 370, was heading the opposite direction.

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


Thanks for posting this.

Can anyone confirm/deny the theory that a nearby AWACS plane was used to mask the heading of MH370 as it was flying into the Indian Ocean? (By using AWACS radar jamming technology to confuse Malaysian ground-based primary radar.)

Source: www.jimstonefreelance.com... (see "Theory 6")

He continues on to say:

FACT: The first thing to go with jamming would be the transponder. Jamming would also keep the pilots from radioing out. Jamming would have a harder time spoofing all radars, and THAT is the part of the plan that did not go perfect, as it would be expected. And I would guess that the plane was taken to a location, most likely Afghanistan, where NO ONE would say a peep about it being there and it would not matter if it was on radar or not.
In fact, once the plane was actually stolen, it would be possible to only jam it's communications, stop spoofing radar, and identify the plane as something else via a fake beacon on the Awacs plane to get it through another nation's radar shield without anyone knowing what it was. THAT is what probably really happened.

This might have something to do with the radar anomaly discovered in the Flight Tracker software, originally found by Inshel and then explained by WanDash here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

I really do not know enough about such technologies to say whether this theory is credible.

reply to post by kanbanozaurus


as I work at an airport an listen to radio traffic most of the day, I quite often here relaxed exchanges between atc and departing flights, the usual have a good weekend or even put a bet on the cup. they are all human, so after being directed to head to flight level 1-8-0 and leaving controlled airspace these exchanges do occur. hope that adds some perspective to your query.

Looking at possible landing sites in indian ocean and the simulators for landing in some areas in indian ocean i thought id have a look. I came across this in the Seychelles. It looks like a 777-200 to me. This may be a popular route for this plane but just thought id add it in. You can even see the maintenance so its just landed or ready for take off. any thoughts?

reply to post by jsl2837


First of all, I'm not sure an AWACs plane 'jams' things, I could be wrong.

Secondly I don't think civillian radar 'lost' the plane but military radar could see it flying for another hour which = plane invisible to one radar and not the other - as the theory is saying

Malaysias civillian radar could see a plane, but could not identify it due to the transponders being turned off. Military radar could also see this plane at the same time. So it wasn't masked from one radar and not the other.

civpop
Not my news just passing on what I have read

A Malaysian newspaper is reporting that investigations into the flight simulator, seized from the home of one of MH370's missing pilots, included software for five practice runways around the Indian Ocean, where the desperate search for the plane is continuing.

The Berita Harian is reporting that five runways were programmed into Captain Zaharie Shah's homemade flight simulator that was taken by police for analysis last Saturday.

"Among the software we checked so far is the Male International Airport in Maldives, three airports in India and Sri Lanka, and one belonging to the US military base in Diego Garcia. All have a runway length of 1,000 metres," a source told the Malay daily.

Source

ed it on 18-3-2014 by civpop because: (no reason given)

that's interesting about the Maldives......several people there reported seeing a very low flying big plane, with the right color marking the morning the plane went missing....why has this has only been reported now???

So the ACARS system is easy to turn off and Malaysia does it every flight. We have not had the airline, MA airline pilots, network service provider or more official position state this. We did hear for days of how difficult turning it off was and required a professional or do it yourself EE to disable it.

Now Thailand saw a strange radar blip.

What has happened to reporting and investigation. Is anyone actually aware of reality as they did/do their job?

reply to post by research100


If it's true I'm sure they knew this a couple of days ago (I think they got the simulator/computer on Sunday) and have had a look at those runways very closely by now.

Thailand are the only country so far to help Malaysia by releasing radar data , 10 days later! So it seems China, France , Us and others have maybe given some information but not actually let Malaysia or anyone else look at it directly.

Thailand’s military said Tuesday that its radar detected a plane that may have been Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 just minutes after the jetliner’s communications went down, and that it didn’t share the information with Malaysia earlier because it wasn’t specifically asked for it.
A twisting flight path described Tuesday by Thai air force spokesman Air Vice Marshal Montol Suchookorn took the plane to the Strait of Malacca, which is where Malaysian radar tracked Flight 370 early March 8. But Montol said the Thai military doesn’t know whether it detected the same plane.

Thailand’s failure to quickly share possible information regarding the fate of the plane, and the 239 people aboard it, may not substantially change what Malaysian officials know, but it raises questions about the degree to which some countries are sharing their defense information, even in the name of an urgent and mind-bending aviation mystery.

With only its own radar to go on, it took Malaysia a week to confirm that Flight 370 had entered the strait, an important detail that led it to change its search strategy.

When asked why it took so long to release the information, Montol said, “Because we did not pay any attention to it. The Royal Thai Air Force only looks after any threats against our country, so anything that did not look like a threat to us, we simply look at it without taking actions.”

He said the plane never entered Thai airspace and that Malaysia’s initial request for information in the early days of the search was not specific.

“When they asked again and there was new information and assumptions from (Malaysian) Prime Minister Najib Razak, we took a look at our information again,” Montol said. “It didn’t take long for us to figure out, although it did take some experts to find out about it.”

Flight 370 took off from Kuala Lumpur at 12:40 a.m. Malaysian time and its transponder, which allows air traffic controllers to identify and track the airplane, ceased communicating at 1:20 a.m.

Montol said that at 1:28 a.m., Thai military radar “was able to detect a signal, which was not a normal signal, of a plane flying in the direction opposite from the MH370 plane,” back toward Kuala Lumpur.

The plane later turned right, toward Butterworth, a Malaysian city along the Strait of Malacca. The radar signal was infrequent and did not include any data such as the flight number.

He said he didn’t know exactly when Thai radar last detected the plane. Malaysian officials have said Flight 370 was last detected by their own military radar at 2:14 a.m.



Read more: MISSING MH370: Thailand gives radar data 10 days after plane lost - Latest - New Straits Times www.nst.com.my...

National News Bureau of Thailand, 18 March 2014:

BANGKOK, 18 March 2014 (NNT) - The Royal Thai Air Force will send the radar information which suggests that the lost Malaysia airliner deviated its path to the Strait of Malacca to the Malaysian government. However, the air force does not confirm the detected airplane was the missing MH370.

Air Force Commander-in-Chief ACM Prachin Chantong said the air force's radar station in the South had detected an aircraft taking off in Malaysia and later turning around passing Butterworth. The plane was believed to head toward the Strait of Malacca, the same speculation as Kuala Lumpur had, the official said.

ACM Prachin stressed that further analysis was needed to ascertain whether the plane was the MH370 jetliner.

If the missing aircraft flew toward Vietnam, Thailand's radar would not be able to detect it, the air force chief said.

Source: thainews.prd.go.th...

This only confirms the existing version of events, that MH370 did not continue eastward in the direction of Vietnam after the transponder was turned off, correct?

Are there other implications?

reply to post by jsl2837


Yes it only confirms what the Malaysians said already. No-one seems to know what it did after the Westward turn.

Depending on Thailand's radar coverage (would have to look it up), I am presuming they could tell if it did go to Vietnam or Cambodia..

reply to post by jsl2837


From the latest maps/graphics, it looks as if a jet turned toward the southwest, rather than a hard westerly turn.
But the graphics are coming from CNN, so I'm skeptical. However, it seems as if the big game changer is the information that several ATSers have posted about ASCAR being engaged only during takeoff and landing. MSM is regurgitating and convoluting everything BUT this. Which, for them, is SNAFU.

reply to post by drwill


Very true, no media is asking about the earlier pings either!

Why have they only released the maps based on the last feckin ping !? Come on journalists, grow a brain.

reply to post by DrHammondStoat

ITA. And, in my opinion, the New York Times' latest story is disgraceful. Too many CYA phrases to excuse the journalist in the event that wreckage is found, not to mention the unnamed US source. Very Deep Throat-ish. How can so much be known by shadowy mouthpieces? And why should their secrets be published without verification? Am I the only one who thinks someone is pushing the Butler Did It angle a bit too desperately?
Yet this article is being circulated as Gospel. Go figure.