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Originally posted by NaturalDisaster
is Mel Gibson trying to say something?
Originally posted by HowardRoark
Originally posted by NaturalDisaster
is Mel Gibson trying to say something?
He is just keeping it real.
[Edited on 29-2-2004 by SpittinCobra]
Originally posted by Thorfinn Skullsplitter
Well for one thing. There is no epic battle between good and evil. You cannot, CANNOT have one without the other. Plain and simple.
One cannot and will not exist without the other. All of creation exists in a balance. And that is a fact. One cannot know beauty unless there is an ugliness. You cannot have darkness without the light or there would be no such thing as darkness.
Originally posted by Johannmon
I have heard tell of strange happenings during production of the movie like lightning striking the man who played Jesus and things like that. Does anyone have a link to this information?
Originally posted by Johannmon
Originally posted by Thorfinn Skullsplitter
Well for one thing. There is no epic battle between good and evil. You cannot, CANNOT have one without the other. Plain and simple.
One cannot and will not exist without the other. All of creation exists in a balance. And that is a fact. One cannot know beauty unless there is an ugliness. You cannot have darkness without the light or there would be no such thing as darkness.
I agree there can be no darkness without the light but there can be light without darkness. There can also be beauty without ugliness for all can be beautiful but ugliness is the lack of beauty just as darkness is the lack of light.
Therefore evil cannot exist with out good but good can exist without evil. By the same standard God who is good preceeded all other things and in his goodness gave the things he created free will. The granting of freedom is a characteristic of good. In granting His creations the ability to choose good by its nature opened the door for evil to come into existance. There is no balance of good and evil. Evil only exists until all have made their choice. Once that is done good is then obligated by its nature to destroy evil.
Sorry to diverge from the appointed topic but I felt those comments needed addressing.
Originally posted by Johannmon
Originally posted by Thorfinn Skullsplitter
Well for one thing. There is no epic battle between good and evil. You cannot, CANNOT have one without the other. Plain and simple.
One cannot and will not exist without the other. All of creation exists in a balance. And that is a fact. One cannot know beauty unless there is an ugliness. You cannot have darkness without the light or there would be no such thing as darkness.
I agree there can be no darkness without the light but there can be light without darkness. There can also be beauty without ugliness for all can be beautiful but ugliness is the lack of beauty just as darkness is the lack of light.
Therefore evil cannot exist with out good but good can exist without evil. By the same standard God who is good preceeded all other things and in his goodness gave the things he created free will. The granting of freedom is a characteristic of good. In granting His creations the ability to choose good by its nature opened the door for evil to come into existance. There is no balance of good and evil. Evil only exists until all have made their choice. Once that is done good is then obligated by its nature to destroy evil.
Sorry to diverge from the appointed topic but I felt those comments needed addressing.
Originally posted by Earthscum
Originally posted by Johannmon
Originally posted by Thorfinn Skullsplitter
Well for one thing. There is no epic battle between good and evil. You cannot, CANNOT have one without the other. Plain and simple.
One cannot and will not exist without the other. All of creation exists in a balance. And that is a fact. One cannot know beauty unless there is an ugliness. You cannot have darkness without the light or there would be no such thing as darkness.
I agree there can be no darkness without the light but there can be light without darkness. There can also be beauty without ugliness for all can be beautiful but ugliness is the lack of beauty just as darkness is the lack of light.
Therefore evil cannot exist with out good but good can exist without evil. By the same standard God who is good preceeded all other things and in his goodness gave the things he created free will. The granting of freedom is a characteristic of good. In granting His creations the ability to choose good by its nature opened the door for evil to come into existance. There is no balance of good and evil. Evil only exists until all have made their choice. Once that is done good is then obligated by its nature to destroy evil.
Sorry to diverge from the appointed topic but I felt those comments needed addressing.
As any... ANY philosopher knows, you cannot have one thing without a contrast to it. If you don't have a contrast, it doesn't exist. Let me ask you this:
HOW would you know that there is only light, if that's all you saw?
Now for the logical explanation (note the word LOGICAL):
In literal terms, you would only see white, nothing else. You could not see yourself, because you would be white, and nothing would exist because it would all be white. Now, throw darkness into the mix and VIOLA! You have a contrast to which to compare the light. Don't even try to go for colors, I will argue this as well. If all you have is light, what would separate it into it's different colors? Darness is the ABSENCE of light. Color is the ABSENCE of the other colors. If you cannot have the absence of light, you cannot have the absence of ANY light, and therefore would only have pure light.
The same thing works with Good and Evil. If everything was good, nothing could exist. Evil is fluctuation of the absence of Good. This gives contrast and makes Good apparent. A true Utopian society could not exist. Every good person has some bad by which to contrast the good, and Bad people have Good qualities by which to contrast.
If you cannot even conceive of this argument, then just stop this thread now. All it will do is upset you beyond all recognition.