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posted on May, 23 2003 @ 11:21 AM
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Did anyone see the documentary on channel4 last night (UK TV) about hitler possibly escaping alive from berlin to argentina, it was a very informed show and didnt go for all the sensationalism.It ended up with a woman who worked at the eden hotel, somewhere in argentina telling how hitler had come to stay, even what he ate and the music he liked....
One day after, he just disappeared....
Even the FBI had agents in countries looking for him due to the amount of sightings.
Many still believe the brits had him and sheltered him in their berlin sector.

Channel4's really starting to get good at these now.




posted on May, 23 2003 @ 11:28 AM
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Never mind Hitler, what is the real reason that Rudoplh Hess was imprisoned in Spandau?? Does anyone know??



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 11:29 AM
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"Nevermind hitler"

Get your own post then.



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 02:21 PM
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Even the Russian general ( I don't remember his name ) who did the investigations on the Hitler death sent a report to Stalin where he was saying that Hitler wasn't dead and was still hidding somewhere.

Stalin ordered him to shut up and to write that Hitler was dead.

The main problem was there was no bullet hole in the bunker wall where Hitler have been commited his so-called suicide. Also, no blood, strictly NOTHING. There is others proofs that Hitler really didn't die in his bunker. Look on internet, it's not so difficult.

Also, the day where Hitler is supposed to have commited his so-called suicide, an Arado bomber, escorted by more than 50 Fock-Wulf FW-190 fighters left Berlin and headed straight to the Baltic Sea.

And in may 1945, for the germans, it was allmost impossible to find enough oil for such big wing ( more than 50 airplanes ). Also, the Luftwaffe was down at 99 %. It was a real miracle to do such a thing.

The former Arado crewmen were still alive after the WW2, and one of them told to the Russians that they received a special order. They were NOT allowed to look at their special guest. One of them did it, and he sayed he saw Hitler and Eva Braun.

Of course, now, he's dead.It's sure. But he didn't die in a bunker. Some peoples who tryed to find the truth have died mysteriously. And even now, the nazis are still active. And I don't speak about a bunch of stupids neo-nazis skinheads. I speak about REAL nazis. Men and women who knew the WW2 and fought for Hitler.

Thinking the third reich is dead is an illusion.



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 02:38 PM
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I saw a show on the History Channel last summer about the death of Hitler. They had something there that after these Nazis removed the bodies from the bunker they had them burned. I belive there were 4 Nazis burning the bodies, now if remember correctly 3 of them said the body that had burned was not Hitler's and they said he went on some plane to God knows where. I think Hitler did escape, but by now for sure he is dead.



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 02:45 PM
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I don't think for a second that Hilter died like "They" tell you he did.

Hitler was a little smarter than that. Hitler was into Satanism. I don't think that he would have taken his own life. Somehow I just put that past true Satanists. That is just my opinion.


As for the Third Reich, well yeah of course it isn't dead. Hilter said 1000 years. It has been 60. Personally I think that Hilter expected to lose his crusade, and that the plans for the human race were much more complicated than just genocide and large scale warfare. I think that like all true Satanist corruptors, Hitler was living and acting out his life as if he was never going to die. You see, many times those that are agents of evil are unaware of their forced slavery. For the agents cannot always look into what their actions will do in time.

Time is very important to immortals. They know that a mortal is the key to saving them time that flys them by. They know that the ignorant mortals cannot think in terms of thousands of years. In fact many mortals have problems thinking past the first three hours of their life. So people simply live by the moment. Immortal and hateful beings think about the end, for the sake of the moment.

Hiter wasn't thinking about what happened or will happen in 40 or even 200 hundred years. But what would happen in thousands of years. Hitler knows the contribution he committed to evil. His contribution opened the gates of world domination through the use of political conspiracy and hate.

In these days, these things, conspiracy and hate, have become stepping stones to the seperation and hate among peoples. Look at the State of Israel. That is just another part of the master plan. Hitler knew that this state would rise after his fall, and he knew there was a reason for that.


What is that reason???

The beginning of the end for the Jews. Israel has become one of the worst of all the human rights abusers. This is for good reason too. For Satan intends to kill all of "God's people". Satan is jealous of the Jews, and Hitler was just the start of Satan's war aganist the Israelites. The conspiracy is so vast that one cannot possibly know it all. Yet one can cleary see what I am talking about. Can one not???


You See???



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 03:44 PM
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Hitler is not dead, and thats a fact. He escaped to Spain, Then to Morroco, then to Argentina. Its a Theory from a pilot swore he saw hitler on a plane. Then he kept track where the plane went. Althought the plane is said to have gone to the USA, it went to Argentina. The story is found in Argentina. My friend told me about it. Its interesting but no real info to back it up.

But I do believe that hitler was not dead and that He might have escaped to a small island of the tip of Argentina or maybe Antartica. Undergroud bases over there might be possible.



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 03:50 PM
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It isn't too far fetched to say that he is with the so-called 'light people' that he spoke of so much. Who knows. Only those that are willing to go underground will find out. So how many actually believe that Hitler could be in the land of Argharta???


Does anyone have the courage to go there and find out for themselves???


Abe



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 05:44 PM
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If Hitler did survive (and it is quite likely that he did), he probably flew out of Berlin to a U Boat base in the Baltic, where he boarded a U Boat that then sailed directly south to Antarctica.

It is known that the Nazis did a great deal of exploration of Antarctica prior to the war, and in fact located a previously unknown submarine canyon that bisected the continent. This would by todays standards be the perfect underwater entry to any bases on the continent by U Boat.

It is also known that for up to 8 months after the war, at least 2-3 U Boat crews would show up along Argentinas coastline, where they would promptly scuttle thier U Boats and surrender to Argentine forces. All crews who did this were notoriously tight lipped about thier whereabouts for the previous months after the war. Of course, Argentina, being a German ally, didnt press them for details too hard.

This of course leads up to Admiral Byrd and the famous Operation HighJump, whereby a fully armed naval taskforce "explored" Antarctica in 1946 with a couple thousand fully armed, combat ready marines. This "exploration expedition" resulted in a couple of lost ships and (at least rumored) a couple hundred dead marines.

After Operation HighJump, the US left Antarctica for the better part of decade, without explaination and with a serious lack of scientific data that would otherwise have been generated in a legitimate scientific expedition.



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by Abraham Virtue

Does anyone have the courage to go there and find out for themselves???

Abe


Look AV, still now in Germany, there is hundreds ( thousands ? ) and hundreds of olds germans-nazis bunkers, closed by them, who didn't have been opened up and checked by the Allied and/or the german gov.

They are still monitored by some nazis networks, and if you try to go there, you'll be in troubles.

So, imagine what will happen if you try to go in Antartica to find a so-called undergound nazi base.


Nazis are dangerous and deadly. Don't mess with them. Just avoid them. Posting on internet is not dangerous ( normally ). Looking for them, it's very dangerous.


Dragonrider, at the end of the WW2, Royal Navy fought against a german U-Boat fleet (+/- 150 U-Boat ? ) , in South-Atlantica, who was heading straight to Antartica. Royal Navy losted the fight. It doesn't take a genius to understand what/who the U-Boat's were carrying and why the RN did everything to sink them.

And during the Geophysical 1958 year, the USA were thinking to detonate some H-bombs in Antartica. Officialy, the purpose was to find new ressources ( Uranium, Iron, copper...etc... ). Using some h-bombs to find new ressources,especially in Antartica. What a joke.



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 06:11 PM
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And during the Geophysical 1958 year, the USA were thinking to detonate some H-bombs in Antartica. Posted by UP

Do you happen to have a link to the info on the nuclear weapons, and also the Royal Navy/U Boat naval battle???



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by dragonrider
And during the Geophysical 1958 year, the USA were thinking to detonate some H-bombs in Antartica. Posted by UP

Do you happen to have a link to the info on the nuclear weapons, and also the Royal Navy/U Boat naval battle???




If it brings you any comfort, I remember hearing the same thing about the Nuclear tests. Question to our fellow Geologist:

Would it be reasonable for one to detonate Nuclear weapons in order to obtain and or find materials such as iron, and copper???


Abe



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 08:51 PM
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Would it be reasonable for one to detonate Nuclear weapons in order to obtain and or find materials such as iron, and copper??? Posted by AV

In normal circumstances, no.

However, in all fairness, at the time of this (1958) there was a good deal of research into using nuclear explosives for excavation purposes. I am not sure of any research for Mining per se, and I dont think it would be useful, as the blast would irradiate the metals you are seeking, making them useless for several hundred years.



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by dragonrider
Would it be reasonable for one to detonate Nuclear weapons in order to obtain and or find materials such as iron, and copper??? Posted by AV

In normal circumstances, no.

However, in all fairness, at the time of this (1958) there was a good deal of research into using nuclear explosives for excavation purposes. I am not sure of any research for Mining per se, and I dont think it would be useful, as the blast would irradiate the metals you are seeking, making them useless for several hundred years.




posted on May, 23 2003 @ 10:59 PM
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Have you got a link for the Arado and the Focke-Wulf escort, U-P. This is new to me.
The Arado must, I assume, have been the 234 -the Luftwaffe's jet bomber so the escort must have slowed it down a little.
(interesting aeroplane, aviation fans: www.vectorsite.net... is a good link)



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 11:03 PM
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The only thing similar that I know was in the long-since discredited Hitler Diaries (Stern about 1983) and that was emphatically a Dornier 335. ( another amazing machine, aviation fans)



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 11:47 PM
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I do remember a story about the last day before Hitlers bunker was overrun by the Russians: supposedly a single engine Storch recon plane landed (taking Russian fire on both landing and takeoff) and picked up a single passenger before taking off again.

The Storch (equivalent of the US Piper Cub) would have been vulnerable to Russian groundfire due to its low altitude and slow speed, and its limited range would not have been exceedingly helpful. However, its small size and STOL abilities would have allowed it to land at many straight sections of road otherwise unusable by other aircraft.

Perhaps this was Hitler making his last bolt in the Storch, which took him a short hop to a pickup point where he was taken by Arado/Dornier to a U Boat base?

Also, much has been made in the debunking realm that the Atlantic was so heavily patrolled that any decent number of U Boats would not have been able to make it to Antarctica without detection, as they had to surface every 24 hours or so to snorkel, run thier diesel generators and recharge thier batteries for underwater running.

However, reportedly, at the end of the war, among other high tech inventions that we know the Germans pressed into service, was a new hydrogen peroxide power plant that allowed full speed for up to 14 days before surfacing was required.

Any information on this story would be appreciated.



posted on May, 24 2003 @ 12:35 AM
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this is invariably the best non-fantasy site, dragon-r
uboat.net...



posted on May, 24 2003 @ 12:43 AM
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you're thinking, I imagine, of the Walter or Electroboats and Perhydrol fuel, dragon-R.
Well, they're much-hyped in loony-land, but revolutioonary none the less. Absolutely plenty here -worth clicking through.
Warning: if you really are interested in this aspect of WWII, this site is addictive.



posted on May, 24 2003 @ 12:57 AM
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As for U-P, he has suffered temporary head-not-rightness as far as Antarctica is concerned. This is not his fault it is a well known symptom of tea-overdosing which is why Estragon follows the straight and narrow and relied on Good Old Mother Ethanol.
It's part of a piece of general looniness about "Operation Highjump (insomniacs invited to search) as in this typical drivel from Jumpin' Jeff:

www.rense.com...






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