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reply to post by neoholographic
I really dislike the term "woo" also. It's very condescending in all terms of usage and discourages creativity. As if the current scientific dogma that reigns supreme has it all figured it out. I like to think of it as a form of intellectual terrorism. I read that somewhere... So the next time someone throws "woo woo" at you during a scientific debate, refer to them as an intellectual terrorist and see how they like it.
edit on 1-2-2014 by PhotonEffect because: (no reason given)
“He has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me,” Einstein wrote to the Besso family. “That means nothing. For us believing physicists, the distinction between past, present and future is only a stubborn illusion.”
“It is a magnificent feeling to recognize the unity of complex phenomena which appear to be things quite apart from the direct visible truth.”
"A human being is a part of a whole, called by us _universe_, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."
It's not just the act of observation. A lot of people say the wave function collapses when the observer looks at it. We're not talking about just looking at it. Experiments show that particles change the way they behave based on what we will know.
For instance, if you have an entangled particle pair and one goes to Detector A and the other to Detector B and you put a QWP (Quarter Wave Plate) in front of Detector A then the pair will behave like a particle and this will show up on the coincidence counter.
Let's change it up. We now will put a polarizing window in the path of the particle going to the B Detector. This will stop the Detector from registering any coincidences. What happens?
A wave pattern shows up for the particle going to Detector A because we can't know which path information. It goes even deeper.
Let's say you move Detector B back further so it takes particle B longer to reach the Detector. Remember, the particle going to Detector A has a QWP in front of it and particle A will be measured before particle B reaches the polarizing window
Even when there's a QWP there to measure which path information it still behaves as a wave because in the future we cannot know which path information. So the perceived separation of time can't even break the link between what a conscious observer will or will not know and the behavior of subatomic particles.
reply to post by Arbitrageur
Atheist David Deutsch said this:
Einstein said this to his family.
Max Planck said this:
Werner Heisenberg said this:
So basically skeptics use ad homs to explain away results they don't like?
The problem with skeptics is they think with their biases. Shoot first ask questions later.