I read today that Scientist believe the fuel in reactor 3 has melted down into the groundwater..

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posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 11:12 AM
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posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 01:32 PM
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vkey08
I had been looking for this all day..



That is a picture (screenie actually) of the wind map of the Earth, the underlying colors denote temperature, and the direction in which they are headed is easy enough to figure out..

In order for radiation to come into the US West Coast by wind.. it would have to violate every known law of physics and go against the prevailing winds that come off of the west coast..

So there you have it, it is physically impossible for the radiation from Fukishima to travel from Japan on the wind and hit the West coast of the United States..


Think above prevailing winds... I.E. Jetstream

The winds are ground level; local, the Jetstream is above the winds and radiation can travel via the Jetstream from japan to the West Coast, just like storm systems.

God Bless,



posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 03:11 PM
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Alekto
Enenews you say?

Nobody actually knows who runs enenews. A domain registration lookup shows its private registration with the mysteriously named DomainSecrecy.net. A ping of the domain shows the address of 98.158.182.89, which traces back to the internet domain host provider UK2 Group, which is located in Providence, Utah.

It is a mysterious site, indeed, with no About page, no mention of its authors, contact info, or its sources of funding, despite 144 posts since its inception on March 18, 2011.


What we do see, however, are scary headlines citing mass media sources, with added editorial.

For instance, the March 29 headline, Radioactive Iodine-131 in Pennsylvania rainwater sample is 3300% above federal drinking water standard.

3300% higher is 33 times higher, but 3300% sounds a lot scarier. The headline also draws a word association between rainwater and drinking water, despite going on to mention the mass media source that says a 3300% higher amount of radioactive iodine in rainwater samples is still 25 times less than would be of concern. Also, nowhere does the article mention that the half-life of radioactive iodine is eight days.


Enenews cannot just be arbitrarily dimissed... they actually post some good information, you just have to get through the doom porn to find it.

I had brought this up before and and it never really went far,,, but always follow the money.

There is a connection between enenews and netc....I don't know what it is but it's fairly obvious since netc scrolls the headlines from enenews across its page.

So you have one site that tries to instill mass fears about radiation and another site that just happens to sell geiger counters
linked somehow. It would appear that one hand is feeding the other so to speak. It tends to make my BS meter start to wiggle.

enenews.com...

netc.com...
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posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 03:23 PM
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Would it be ok to post their about statement ?



ENENews.com – Energy News About ENENews is an online service dedicated to covering the latest energy-related developments. Established shortly after the Fukushima Daiichi disaster in March 2011, ENENews has grown rapidly to serve approximately 2,000,000 pageviews per month — and with over 200,000 comments and counting, our active community of registered users is one of the most engaged on the internet. These figures represent a vast audience that includes not only nuclear industry professionals, but also scientists, researchers, journalists, opinion and policy-makers, as well as the general public.


Just seemed like it would be fair.

facts anyone interested,


Overview of Enenews.Com LLC in Palm City, FL Enenews.Com LLC filed as a Florida Limited Liability in the State of Florida on Friday, July 01, 2011 and is approximately three years old, as recorded in documents filed with Florida Department of State. The filing is currently active as of the last data refresh which occured on Sunday, September 01, 2013. Key People Grant Grand serves as the Manager and has interests in other corporate entities including Madison Grand, Inc., Law Office of Grant Grand, P.A. Grant N. Grand is also the registered agent for the company. Also known as a statutory or resident agent, the registered agent is responsible for receiving legal notifications regarding court summons, lawsuits, and other legal actions involving the corporate entity.
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the chase ?
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posted on Jan, 23 2014 @ 06:43 PM
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Enenews you say? Nobody actually knows who runs enenews. A domain registration lookup shows its private registration with the mysteriously named DomainSecrecy.net. A ping of the domain shows the address of 98.158.182.89, which traces back to the internet domain host provider UK2 Group, which is located in Providence, Utah. It is a mysterious site, indeed, with no About page, no mention of its authors, contact info, or its sources of funding, despite 144 posts since its inception on March 18, 2011.


You got me to have a look, interested, I started a thread, EneNews Conspiracy



posted on Jan, 24 2014 @ 11:29 AM
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posted on Jan, 24 2014 @ 05:00 PM
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Somethin interesting..

Chiba Prefecture is pretty close to Fukishima and suffered moderate to severe damage in the Tsunami and Earthquake. (It's also where I'm from originally ^_^) and they take readings randomly every month on the Eastern coastline.

If you look at the readings for the three major radioactive elements,

NOT DETECTED somes through every time..

Here's the link to their English language page so you can see (something interesting about Chiba, they have never been too fond of the central Japanese Government, being fiercely independent most times so they don't cautow to them one iota)

Chiba Prefectural Government - Radiation Readings

Just something to think about with all the doom and gloom porn going on...



posted on Jan, 24 2014 @ 10:16 PM
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I go very often to Chiba for the collection of Data,
send me a Pm and tell me from where you are
and i will have a look for your Area.
( only when it is not that far)

I've been already in the Floor from Makuhari until Narita,
incl. Kashiwa (very bad)



posted on Jan, 24 2014 @ 10:46 PM
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Getting readings that aren't picking up radiation is a very good thing - but - I'd be interested in knowing if these are air readings what direction the winds were blowing in relation to Fukushima and if these are water readings how the currents flow from Fukushima that way. Also, there is someone in another thread it is discussed that radiation detection instruments are being recalibrated, meaning they are being set differently so higher levels become the norm. Is a history of this discussion by the poster named AFewGoodWomen.



posted on Jan, 24 2014 @ 10:50 PM
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Human0815
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I go very often to Chiba for the collection of Data,
send me a Pm and tell me from where you are
and i will have a look for your Area.
( only when it is not that far)

I've been already in the Floor from Makuhari until Narita,
incl. Kashiwa (very bad)


Sent
always nice to see someone from home territory



posted on Jan, 24 2014 @ 10:53 PM
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wishes
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Getting readings that aren't picking up radiation is a very good thing - but - I'd be interested in knowing if these are air readings what direction the winds were blowing in relation to Fukushima and if these are water readings how the currents flow from Fukushima that way. Also, there is someone in another thread it is discussed that radiation detection instruments are being recalibrated, meaning they are being set differently so higher levels become the norm. Is a history of this discussion by the poster named AFewGoodWomen.







as I understand it, it's done in the water, and it is done by an independent (non TEPECO) research facility hired by the Prefectural Government that thinks TEPECO is full of (insert derogatory term for poo here) NOt having gone over there, and not taking the time to trudge through and read the Japanese page (as I'm so out of practice with my native language it's pathetic) I'm only going by the limited info presented by the Prefectural Govt. on the ENG page.. however the radiation monitoring network (a bunch of volunteers with geiger counters) had a reading up for Chiba City earlier today and it was only reading 10, which is about background for that area.



posted on Jan, 24 2014 @ 11:11 PM
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vkey08

wishes
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Getting readings that aren't picking up radiation is a very good thing - but - I'd be interested in knowing if these are air readings what direction the winds were blowing in relation to Fukushima and if these are water readings how the currents flow from Fukushima that way. Also, there is someone in another thread it is discussed that radiation detection instruments are being recalibrated, meaning they are being set differently so higher levels become the norm. Is a history of this discussion by the poster named AFewGoodWomen.



as I understand it, it's done in the water, and it is done by an independent (non TEPECO) research facility hired by the Prefectural Government that thinks TEPECO is full of (insert derogatory term for poo here) NOt having gone over there, and not taking the time to trudge through and read the Japanese page (as I'm so out of practice with my native language it's pathetic) I'm only going by the limited info presented by the Prefectural Govt. on the ENG page.. however the radiation monitoring network (a bunch of volunteers with geiger counters) had a reading up for Chiba City earlier today and it was only reading 10, which is about background for that area.


Right on for quality, independent readings and awesome Chiba is looking after it on their own. My next question would be how the water currents behave between Fukushima and where they're taking readings. Not asking you to determine this, just saying it would be a question of mine - if the currents are completely different or have a direct connection makes a difference.
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posted on Jan, 25 2014 @ 01:29 AM
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But the problem is we do not have cold fusion.
If only there were no risk of poisoning the world, but spent nuclear material is completely unmanageable, if we don't stop now we will have to much to handle of enriched material. We cant just send it to space, perhaps it would hit another planet and destroy life there.



posted on Jan, 25 2014 @ 06:52 AM
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Here's a look at where they are in comparison if that helps.. Red Arrow is the location of the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant and the blue arrow is Chiba Prefecture..




posted on Jan, 25 2014 @ 06:54 AM
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I read today that Scientist believe the fuel in reactor 3 has melted down into the groundwater..

And yet all we hear about on the TV news is Justin Bieber and Michelle Obama's star studded elite 50th Birthday bash. The 'news' is nothing more than entertainment to distract us while the world melts down around us ....



posted on Jan, 25 2014 @ 06:56 AM
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I lived in Kanagawa prefecture for three years ... just South of Tokyo.
I'm glad I"m not there now. I have no doubt the radiation is way too high and not being reported.



posted on Jan, 25 2014 @ 07:08 AM
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not really.. it's about .0035 -.0069 micro-sieverts/hr there.. which is negligible normal background

Japan Giegermap



posted on Jan, 25 2014 @ 07:21 AM
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You do know you are spoiling the doom porn peoples day with facts don't you?.



posted on Jan, 25 2014 @ 07:51 AM
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This Thread was based on a wrong Graphic,
the Iniator of this Report already excused himself and withdraw (?)
changed that Pic which was wrong, a few Postings above is the link!




The figure in this document has been replaced to address some inquiries we received. The original picture, taken from public source, was merely meant to illustrate how the groundwater flows from the mountain side under the crippled power plant and into the ocean. The depth of the core was not in scale. Although it was not our intention, we acknowledge and regret that it caused some misunderstanding. - January 21, 2014

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posted on Jan, 25 2014 @ 10:11 AM
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boymonkey74
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You do know you are spoiling the doom porn peoples day with facts don't you?.


Just a buzz word (doom porn) to distract from the realities and genuine concerns and discredit/minimize those who express it without adding anything of substance to discussions.

About "Normalcy Bias"
en.wikipedia.org...

The normalcy bias, or normality bias, refers to a mental state people enter when facing a disaster. It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. This often results in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred then it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.


Also, according to maps Chiba is south of Fukushima and the Fukushima ocean currents appear to predominantly travel east/north east so getting a clean reading in Chiba does not mean Fukushima is clean and harmless, it means fortunately for Chiba the water isn't from Fukushima.
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