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Rand Paul's NSA Lawsuit& California Legislators Introduce Bill To Banish NSA

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posted on Jan, 7 2014 @ 04:21 PM
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Rand Paul formally announces his intent to PERSONALLY file a class action lawsuit against the NSA for their gross abuse of state power to intrude on our Bill of Rights. He also states there are already several hundred thousand backing this lawsuit.


Very happy to report a good friend of mine was able to work with a CA State Senator in having them introduce legislation to nullify the NSA in the state of California. You may have all heard of our recent successes in California with passing the "Liberty Preservation Act" nullifying the NDAA in the state of California and signed by governor brown.

www.usnews.com...



A bipartisan team of California state senators introduced legislation Monday that would prohibit the state and its localities from providing "material support" to the National Security Agency.

If the bill becomes law, it would deny NSA facilities access to water and electricity from public utilities, impose sanctions on companies trying to fill the resulting void and outlaw NSA research partnerships with state universities.

Companies with state contracts also would be banned from working with the NSA.

"I agree with the NSA that the world is a dangerous place," state Sen. Ted Lieu, the bill's Democratic co-author, said in a statement. "That is why our founders enacted the Bill of Rights. They understood the grave dangers of an out-of-control federal government."

Lieu said the NSA's surveillance programs pose "a clear and present danger to our liberties."

"The last time the federal government massively violated the U.S. Constitution," he said, "over 100,000 innocent Americans were rounded up and interned."

State Sen. Joel Anderson, a Republican, is Lieu's co-author. The California state senate has 40 members.

"I support this bill because I support the Constitution, our Fourth Amendment rights and our freedoms to live in the United States of America," Anderson said.




posted on Jan, 7 2014 @ 04:37 PM
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I love the Paul family......just had to say that



posted on Jan, 7 2014 @ 06:53 PM
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Hey look!!! It is RAND PAUL! And he has a frivolous lawsuit against the government though he is against waste that even his supporters think will go nowhere! But RAND PAUL!
He isn't a savior on a white horse. He is the son of a career politician who made his living by voting no on everything. Rand tows the party line for the most part in his voting record.
This is to build his name. No more. What? Does he actually think he is lawyer enough to sue the government for top secret information? Might as well shoot for the moon and get the files for the Kennedy assasination or aliens for that matter.



posted on Jan, 7 2014 @ 07:08 PM
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the owlbear
Hey look!!! It is RAND PAUL! And he has a frivolous lawsuit against the government though he is against waste that even his supporters think will go nowhere! But RAND PAUL!
He isn't a savior on a white horse. He is the son of a career politician who made his living by voting no on everything. Rand tows the party line for the most part in his voting record.
This is to build his name. No more. What? Does he actually think he is lawyer enough to sue the government for top secret information? Might as well shoot for the moon and get the files for the Kennedy assasination or aliens for that matter.


Amazing how anyone who stands up or takes on the Federal government over constitutional issues is immediately demonized with all kinds of slander.. Lucky for our country there are a few 100 thousand who agree with him.. I do not care what party or what race an individual is if they can identify wrong doing and stand up with a voice and try and get the wrongs righted then good for them. Politicians who tow the party line are the ones who got us into this mess..... if a few more would have voted "no" more often then IMO it would probably be a better country

P.S. You might want to check your facts for from what I have read he started this as a private citizen and not as a senator.. His coin not part of your taxes
edit on 7-1-2014 by 727Sky because: p.s.



posted on Jan, 7 2014 @ 07:20 PM
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even if it happens..

the NSA Wont stop!

fools, they are spies!



posted on Jan, 7 2014 @ 07:32 PM
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Another attorney already sued the government and is trying to constantly cash in on it. What does little paul wish to achieve? The lawsuit will go nowhere and since he is a US senator, the burden of the costs will go on the taxpayers. I am anti-establishment. Lil' paul is establishment no matter what his texas dad says...where is his constituents? Kentucky-ish? Why?
I question the motives of every politician...this will go nowhere. The government of the cold war still has that much of a stranglehold...don't demonize me for pointing out facts.



posted on Jan, 7 2014 @ 08:46 PM
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the owlbear
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Another attorney already sued the government and is trying to constantly cash in on it. What does little paul wish to achieve? The lawsuit will go nowhere and since he is a US senator, the burden of the costs will go on the taxpayers. I am anti-establishment. Lil' paul is establishment no matter what his texas dad says...where is his constituents? Kentucky-ish? Why?
I question the motives of every politician...this will go nowhere. The government of the cold war still has that much of a stranglehold...don't demonize me for pointing out facts.



What facts have you pointed out exactly? The fact that he is suing as a Senator? FALSE. He is suing as an American, BURDEN OF COST doesn't go to tax payers, in fact the cost goes to the lawyer, where do you even get these "FACTS" from?

People commit into lawsuits to make a point and right a wrong and in the process get settlement money and gain attention. You have something EXTRA and SPECIAL to share with us or are you just going to make things up?

You claim to be anti-establishment and Rand Paul is establishment yet he fights for things Americans care about before it is popular. He gets attacked from Neocon establishment figures like McCain, Graham, and Peter King but of course that still makes him "establishment".

Maybe you can share how your posts have absolutely nothing to do with the NSA or nullification but how you're only in here because Rand Paul soils you on a mental level and you need to make it known.





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posted on Jan, 7 2014 @ 09:49 PM
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Sorry, this is just reality now. The technology exists and many have access to it. We might be able to shut down the NSA, then what? It might stunt the growth of a central mechanism for processing all of the data, but I even doubt that. Private companies, foreign governments, too many are invested in mass analysis of people and it's too powerful to deter people from pursuing it.

Would you rather have Google as the top dog in the digital world? Or China?

I have a huge problem with the rise of digital surveillance, I really don;t know what to do about it. But flipping a switch and getting rid of it is not an option. Aside from a mass movement to get rid of computers and cameras, which will never happen and might be futile or counterproductive anyway, I see no way of shutting down the capability of gathering all of the data and analyzing it.



posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 12:25 AM
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End-user side encryption with ridiculous passwords is about the only thing you can do these days really. It's sad.



posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 04:06 AM
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SkullofThought
Sorry, this is just reality now. The technology exists and many have access to it. We might be able to shut down the NSA, then what? It might stunt the growth of a central mechanism for processing all of the data, but I even doubt that. Private companies, foreign governments, too many are invested in mass analysis of people and it's too powerful to deter people from pursuing it.

Would you rather have Google as the top dog in the digital world? Or China?

I have a huge problem with the rise of digital surveillance, I really don;t know what to do about it. But flipping a switch and getting rid of it is not an option. Aside from a mass movement to get rid of computers and cameras, which will never happen and might be futile or counterproductive anyway, I see no way of shutting down the capability of gathering all of the data and analyzing it.


Really? Because Justin Amash was a mere 12 votes away from passing legislation in the house of reps to defund the NSA. It isn't insanely out of reach. Crazier things have happened.



posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 06:43 AM
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Definitely agree with this post.

People say "oh its pointless you will lose, the government will win and you will look stupid" are missing the point ENTIRELY, some one is trying, what are you doing?



posted on Jan, 8 2014 @ 06:37 PM
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Biigs
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Definitely agree with this post.

People say "oh its pointless you will lose, the government will win and you will look stupid" are missing the point ENTIRELY, some one is trying, what are you doing?


ATS is definitely abundant in defeatists.



posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 11:15 AM
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The defeatist attitude is precisely what TPTB have conditioned within the masses. I have payed attention to politics for a long time and when I was in highschool I understood clearly that we are being played from behind the scenes. Ultimately the greatest illusion they have instilled in us is the disconnect from the true power that we individually have to effect change, and when it is multiplied by group conscious effort, the possibilities are endless. At this time it appears that there is only going to be more of the same old same old, but we must bear in mind that the #1 way they control us is with control of information. There is far to much good being accomplished in this world that they are not letting us know about, innovations are happening daily and the oppression that has existed is being destroyed from the inside out. We are going to see great changes in our lifetimes, is may get rocky, however that is simply the way it goes. Work to practice compassion and understanding. See through the division, and take care of yourself. Break the televesion! Get back to nature, help your neighbor, do not fall for the fearporn! Namaste, these are truly exciting times!
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