Homeless transgendered woman who was murdered in Rome is honored by Jesuits

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posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 02:58 PM
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HanzHenry
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Huh?

I am born male because OBVIOUSLY that is what God intended me to be. Proof is clear in that.

Murder is terrible I agree.

But how is insulting God's obvious intention OK? Because the person was murdered?

I can't explain it any clearer.

Had God wished said person to be called a woman or treated as a woman, pretty sure there would be proof of it. Or something would be missing. lol

How can religious leaders go against God's wish.? that this person be acknowledged as a man, whom wished to be a woman?


See, this is where you've gone astray friend. Transgendered people don't do what they do to "insult God." They do it because it is who they are--as God created them. They were created transgendered just as you were created not.

We each have our own cross to bear. How do you know that being born in the wrong body is not the cross God intended transgendered individuals to bear, for the sake of their own enlightenment?

This is why we are not to judge. Because we do not know! And no Christian dictates to God what his will must be!

This is my understanding. I offer it in the hopes of increasing understanding and good-will between others.




posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 03:12 PM
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HanzHenry
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Huh?

I am born male because OBVIOUSLY that is what God intended me to be. Proof is clear in that.

Murder is terrible I agree.

But how is insulting God's obvious intention OK? Because the person was murdered?

I can't explain it any clearer.

Had God wished said person to be called a woman or treated as a woman, pretty sure there would be proof of it. Or something would be missing. lol

How can religious leaders go against God's wish.? that this person be acknowledged as a man, whom wished to be a woman?


Or god intended a person to have feelings of disconnection with the sex god made it born as, so that the person could teach you and others who have your view a lesson in tolerance and not judging.



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 03:21 PM
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Maybe the church didn't know of this person or maybe this person chose their own path as far as living accommodations. I work with a gay guy but he does have a house and a car. Maybe the person made bad life choices i.e. Drugs that took all their money. Heck for that matter maybe he was just unlikeable. I'm sure not every LGBT person is gosh darned wonderful and personable.



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 03:56 PM
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Interesting reply !


Maybe the church didn't know of this person or maybe this person chose their own path as far as living accommodations.


Just recently, I was discussing homelessness with a close friend of mine and she told me the story of a guy who had it all in his lifetime, extremely wealthy but he gave it all away to "live on the streets". It was his choice and he would not want any help from anyone. He just wanted to live by himself on the streets.

So, some do in fact choose it as a path. You are 100% correct.



posted on Jan, 3 2014 @ 04:00 PM
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SonoftheSun
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Interesting reply !


Maybe the church didn't know of this person or maybe this person chose their own path as far as living accommodations.


Just recently, I was discussing homelessness with a close friend of mine and she told me the story of a guy who had it all in his lifetime, extremely wealthy but he gave it all away to "live on the streets". It was his choice and he would not want any help from anyone. He just wanted to live by himself on the streets.

So, some do in fact choose it as a path. You are 100% correct.


Possibly because of what often happens to those who let "the system" maintain its hold on their balls. I would rather not depend on the establishment to keep my best interests in mind.
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posted on Jan, 4 2014 @ 04:01 AM
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That's a very moving story. Its easy to look at LGBT people as some sort of outcasts in the eyes of Biblical God, but what about the vast millions people in America (like me) who look at women lustfully, due to sex in advertising, or porn, or just plain hotness? Jesus says, in Matthew 5:27:

27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[a] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away.

Jesus never says anything that harsh about LGBT people, the condemnations come only in the OT, or in Romans in the NT from Paul (as I recall).

And what about being rich? That thing about the Camel and the eye of the needle? That's a tall order too. Jesus basically asks us to give it all away by the time we pass on, to enter the kingdom of heaven as a poor person. That's not something we hear people talk about.

The point is we ALL fall short of these moral standards, and that is what requires us to forgive each other for all of it. The Christians who get that do a service to their faith.



posted on Jan, 5 2014 @ 10:50 PM
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My son attends a University in the Midwest (USA). It is common knowledge among the students that one of the professors there had a sex change operation. The woman is an active member at the local Catholic church in town. Nobody in the parish has an issue with her decision.

When you say "all are welcome" nobody gets excluded.

I don't really understand why this was such a courageous act to give Andrea a funeral. Then again, I don't live in Rome.

The article said Andrea never got the white wedding that she dreamed about. I believe she did.

Those words: "Who am I to judge" are words we all should embrace.





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