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I was thinking of the night Halt's team were out reporting all sorts of strange lights and how he described them as "losing altitude". It would be interesting to see how the start moved across the sky during that time.
I found a freeware program "Stellarium" which for nothing seems like a really good application and am going to have a tinker with that.
What if--and I usually hate "what ifs"--someone figured out how to induce such high-strangeness and threw a bunch of soldiers in the middle of it and sat back and watched? Think about it.
Well, anyone can say that they saw something well after the event. As draknoir has indicated, the "Me, too" effect may be at work here. Where's the documentation?
Surprises me not.
Did I proffer an explanation? Nope. Food for thought, yes.
My colleague Dave Clarke has written more about this on his page here:
Search on the word "radar".
Surely, to exhibit such a level of utter incompetence when in charge of military airbase, would have seen his immediate removal and posting to a desk job in Anchorage? Yet nothing of the sort occurred, Halt remained in post as did the vast majority of the personnel who were so damnably incompetent those nights.
I didn't come across anyone accusing anyone of being incompetent except for this straw man argument, of course. Why would they be incompetent?
If he was so sure unidentified spacecraft were shooting beams at a nuclear base, why didn't he do more to prevent this from happening? Certainly a barrage of SAM's would have been justified. No?
He did exactly what was appropriate. He investigated some odd lights and determined there wasn't a threat. Now if he believes those lights were due to space people from the future, that is his own business.
Could Kevin Conde's statement that he hoaxed it - coming, I believe, 21 years after the fact in 2001 - be the "Me too" effect?
Or was he telling the truth?
You think spending several hours off base chasing a lighthouse about is anything other a than an accusation of gullibility and incompetence?
Halt's dialogue on the tape of experience he had, has been analysed by a specialist in recognising "stress patterns" and their opinion is that. he was stressed and then some, which sort of boots the idea "nothing to worry about" into touch for good?
The most common experience during tachypsychia is the feeling that time has either increased or slowed down, brought on by the increased brain activity cause by epinephrine, or the severe decrease in brain activity caused by the "catecholamine washout" occurring after the event.
It is common for an individual experiencing tachypsychia to have serious misinterpretations of their surroundings during the events, through a combination of their altered perception of time, as well as transient partial color blindness and tunnel vision. After the irregularly high levels of adrenaline consumed during sympathetic nervous system activation, an individual may display signs and symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, and it is common for the person to display extreme emotional lability and fatigue, regardless of their actual physical exertion.
As for why you wouldn't fire at it? Great idea. something sat right over your head, why not fire on it and see if you can kill yourself at the same time?
Questions and more questions.
Not a far fetched idea whatsoever. "High-strangeness" can mean a lot of things and is a term thrown around a lot without any clear definition. To me it is another word for "altered state". It's is certainly not beyond the military to experiment on their own people. My feeling is that it's not always needed to introduce a foreign component to induce such states. It's also not so far fetched that being in the Forrest in the middle of the night with your adrenaline pumping could cause this as well.
So whether it was intentional or unintentional...who knows.
Nick Pope was the man who brought Tony Topping to the attention of Channel 4. Here in a never seen before interview he is interviewed by Miles Johnstone of AMMACH regarding his time in the MOD Air 2. Nick was pushed for time and so let his guard down.
At this point my friend said.... "Oh my old man told me something, that one in the forest a good few years ago, that really happened as in, something very strange happened"
I asked him..."Do you mean the Rendlesham incident?"
"Yes"; he replied "That's the one, that actually happened as reported and my dad also told me that many of the witnesses were threatened with prison if they said anything about what they had seen".
Obviously, my interest piqued I then asked them. "So how would he know about that?"
"Oh"; my colleague replied, "My old man was spook, a spy, an arms dealer for the British government and he told me it was true when the first articles in the newspapers were published, not years and years afterwards".
Now, lets break it down. His dad told him that witnesses were threatened with prison if they spoke out. Prison would suggest civilians as, if it were military surely, the terminology he would have used would have been. "They were threatened with court martial"?
So, why would a member of the British security services know of the Rendlesham incident and what was the security services involvement.? Then I remembered the episode of UFO Hunters where Thurkettle says he was visited after the events of December 1980 and before Halt had even written the memo, by two British guys who questioned him about had he seen any strange red light in the forest recently.
Now, my colleague has no real interest in UFOs and neither did his dad however, how come what my colleague tells me his father told him when the incident was first made public, seems to square up nicely with what is now known?
Why is it that, the USAF, which has a notorious record for "forced fit" explanations has never come out and said. "Err right well , actually it was a lighthouse and meteor and given the tensions of the period it happened in everyone became a little carried away for over 72 hours and a whole bunch of professionals made a right mess of it?
.you may have heard of Julian J.A. Hennessey´s work before but he also brings up British MOD UFO policy and the subject of massaging the statistics of actual unknown reports (not to mention 'force fit' debunking) -thought the whole article was an excellent one but towards the end he also mentions how his research led him to conclude that the MOD were engaging in separate, non public UFO investigations.
Nick Pope does state in this interview that a lot of the 'evidence' for the case got sent to Germany (am not in a position to save videos at the moment but if anyone could upload this interview then that would be great as it's a bit of a rare one).
Does anyone happen to know where Jenny Randles sits on this subject today?
Could it be that, when most people see this their first thought is. "So let me get this right, a whole bunch of trained personnel mistook something that lasted for mere seconds for something that was clearly visible and hovering for some considerable length of time? Just how would they do that?
Why is it that, to my knowledge, not one member of the service personnel that night has ever stepped forward and said something along the following lines " Oh god, what right royal cock up that was, there was hell to pay about personnel going off base and spending hours wombling about looking for a lighthouse and meteor"?
draknoir2Because they don't want to look foolish to the entire world, perhaps?