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The public, including a member of the Maryland Drivers Alliance, was banned from attending a speed camera symposium in Bowie Maryland today.
The event, which we had discussed in a previous posting, was sponsored by The Maryland Association of Counties(MaCo) and the Maryland Municipal League (MML), both of which are funded in large part by taxpayer dollars. The heads of the speed camera programs for Montgomery and Prince George's County, Captain Tom Didone and Major Liberati, were leading the event. AAA also co-sponsored the event.
"Capt. Didone called me back and informed me that I was denied permission to attend tomorrow's meeting in Bowie." wrote Simmers "He mentioned that he especially didn't want anyone from our group to attend since Ron is so anti-speed camera.
WASHINGTON - In Montgomery County, 40 percent of each $40 speed camera ticket goes to the camera vendor.
Wrabbit2000
I personally have mixed feelings on this, but not in how it's being used right now. How it's being used now is outright wrong and an automated cash machine for the cities and private contractors running the various systems.
Having said that for current use? I don't mind the idea of automated traffic enforcement within some context. It's gotten absurd for use now in the red light application (they cause rear end accidents, IMO, they don't significantly improve driving outside THOSE specific intersections, otherwise), but I liked them on the open interstate where some dipstick drivers seemed to think they could just make it the autobahn if we wouldn't be nice enough to legally declare it one. Unfortunately, over years of trucking, I also saw more than one idiot fly by and then literally see the outcome of the wreck they caused down the road. Just a couple times for the cause and effect directly like that...but it sticks too.
I think they should DROP the $$ fine entirely, make the point penalty matter and leave it right there. Exactly the opposite of how the systems began (Pay $$ but no points, is how it was sold to people around here). Make it about enforcement so people stop driving like Mr Toad's Wild Ride OR...Driving Ms Daisy, which is equally bad...and I'm all for it.
The money doesn't need to even be a part of it, if it's about the right thing.
Baltimore experienced a nearly 5 percent increase in traffic accidents from 2009 to 2012 — a four-year span during which the city rolled out and ramped up its network of now-idle speed cameras, according to state police.
Nephalim
reply to post by nixie_nox
The people in your city are allowed to vote on whether to have them up or not. The vote (when your people order them down) is constitutional. Being denied the right to vote on that issue is unconstitutional.
Hey Congress and Pres, or State Legislatures and Governors. Can we get a nationwide ban on these cameras? Seriously, the "DON'T SPEEDCAM ME BRO! ACT of 2014" Yes? No?edit on 6-12-2013 by Nephalim because: (no reason given)
I think they should DROP the $$ fine entirely, make the point penalty matter and leave it right there.
Completely disagree with that. I don't believe my state has point penalties (and I don't agree with them to a certain extent). Also who would fund the things if there were no tickets? Everyone instead of just the speeders. I take issue with the things because I don't see them being a real deterrent and just a revenue maker, but popping someone who goes 10 miles an hour over the limit a few times shouldn't affect their ability to drive if conditions are safe. The only place I actually want/encourage speed cameras are around schools, and in the downtown areas where there are pedestrians. On the highway it's perfectly safe to cruise along at 80 in many places.
neformore
reply to post by Nephalim
To me - when I was a boy racer - that would have been a challenge to see how high I could get it to go.
Like them or not, camera enforcement reduces casualties.
Folks need to remember that limits are set for a reason based on road geometry, topography and the surrounding environment, and that it is a upper limit, not a base point to start off or a target.