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Well, I dunno if any one else here plays poker, but I have for years. Recently, there has been a poker craze the likes of which have never been seen.
People of all ages and from both genders are getting into it, and as a result there has been a HUGE boom in the internet gaming industry.
Sites such as PartyPoker are raking in BILLIONS off of this. Recently I have been playing at a few places like this because it is easier to find a
game there then to drive the hour to Atlantic city from the burbs of Philly or to find 5+ people who know how to play and are both willing to put up a
decent amount of money and are free a given night.
So I started playing, and noticed a very
disturbing trend. The program which generates the hands (cards) supposedly at random seems to "bait"
For instance, it will give several people very good hands, such as 2 pair or 3 of a kind, and then give 1 other person a hand that beats them if they
I have seen straights beaten by flushes, and flushes beaten by a full house, and even saw a full house beaten by 4 of a kind. This all hapens
SIGNIFICANTLY more often then it should. In fact, it seems like this happens about every 3rd hand dealt.
For instance, there is a 1 in 254 chance of a straight (5 cards in consecutive order, ie 4,5,6,7,8) occuring. That is less then 1/2%. Yet I often see
this hand beaten by an even more unlikely hand such as a flush (5 cards all of the same suit) which is a 1 in 508 chance.
Of course, this is in "texas Hold 'em" poker, which is by far the most volitile game by nature and has been popularized by the movie "rounders"
and ESPNs coverage of the World Series Of Poker.
Still though, it happens with such frequency that I stopped playing for money on line just 3 days after I started (still took home money though
Another tactic I noticed, was that when you first signed up, you would be dealt very
strong hands early on, so as to build a new players
confidence, and then use the above method to take away the money you won. This was true in every single site I used, and to test the theory, I even
created multiple accounts on each site just to check.
The funny thing is, the online casinos don't lose money when you do well, because they make money by taking the "rake" which is just part of the
pot. So the winner still wins, the loser still loses, but the casino always gets payed. The difference is, with the "baiting" the pots get a lot
larger, and thus, so do the rakes for the casino.
Anyway, I am sure a lot of you probably think I am just a gambling junkie or something, and want to say that its just the law of averages, but I
assure you, as someone who has been playing the game for years, and was taught by a semi pro, that I know what I am talking about. It was consistant
at every site I tried, consistantly mathmatically unlikely.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else noticed this, and also I was wondering if anyone could explain how the hands are formulated by the computer, if
there is a chance it is "rigged", and if there is any way to check to see if a site is in fact rigged.
[edit on 17-11-2004 by American Mad Man]