reply to post by RevelationGeneration
there are actually 2 floods, entwined together, in the flood passages of genesis.
i believe this was the result of the 3 different writers of the pentateuch. both floods were quite real, and both were accurately presented, however,
they did not actually occur as one event. they were 2 separate events.
one flood was the black sea flood. this was a bad flood that effected coastal regions (where most cities were at the time). however, it was not
global. in this flood, the noah figure was instructed to take 7 clean animals in pairs, 7 birds in pairs and 2 unclean animals in pairs. this
amounts to 32 animals. about the size of a barnyard. HOWEVER, the other flood was global, and 2 of each of the approved species would've been
saved. bare with me here, this is interesting
in the opening passages of genesis it says the earth was tohu, in chaos. later the text says the earth was not created tohu. so something happened
to make the earth tohu in the opening passages of genesis. it also says the spirit of god, moves across the face of the deep. the deep is depicted as
water so deep it was covering the land beneath it. then the water draws back to reveal the dry land.
this next part is a lot more specific, so i would rather present it after you've commented on my comments here.
p.s. i still believe moses wrote the initial pentateuch. the question is, was the black sea flood account added later by someone else or was the
global flood account added later. my view at the moment is, the black sea flood account was added later.. perhaps while they were captivity in
babylon. this would make sense if you take into consideration the accounts in the atrahasis epic and the epic of gilgamesh. it may also indicate
that the global version in the opening of genesis is noah's global flood, whereas the later black sea flood is attributed to noah, when it shouldn't
be, but rather one of the rulers mentioned in the epics mentioned above.
the torah has to be treated very gingerly. the wording and phraseology has to be carefully examined, and it is best not to take preconceived ideas or
prior teaching, into your research. the reason this is so very important is that thousands, perhaps even hundreds of thousands or even millions of
years are condensed down into a few passages in genesis. each word, each phrase, has meaning. the particulars have meaning. the known history of
the writer, moses, has meaning. every little teeny tiny bit, has massive amounts of data behind it which is lost on most researchers. they are
taught a very simple version that leaves out so much information that it inadvertently and incorrectly colors their understanding of later texts.
such a result would also effect translators as well, who would decide to choose one meaning for a word, over another, based on a misunderstanding of
prior data in the texts. for example is the word singular or plural. does it mean one of 20 different things and which one. and so on. this is not
an attempt to make the account seem false, as i think it is quite real and accurate in its original form (hebrew, chaldean and aramic), but that
things may not always be in the correct order on the timeline, which was a frequent writing device in ancient cultures, et. al, they'd tell the story,
then tell it again with different details than the first telling
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