Massive amounts of methane spewing from the Arctic

Oh brother, meanwhile radiation is still leaking into the ocean from the Nuclear plant in Japan causing a far worse problem but this gets ignored by the green nuts.

Apparently all the green nuts are worried about is the fake man made global warming, but the water and ground pollution, which is real, doesn't' matter to them. But then again the big shots don't have a cap and trade tax system set up for water and ground pollution do they, hmmm what a coincidence. I could even mention the genetically modified crops which is also an environmental disaster in the making.

Rezlooper


Once again, I'm not trying to create doom porn here. I'm just trying to point out the obvious...something is off with mother nature. How do we explain the increase in these events;

Massive rain and snow events
Increased super storms and typhoons (also in areas that are considered very rare)
Extreme heat, wildfires and drought conditions
Sky quakes and strange noises
Unexplained booms
Increase in smaller earthquakes and quakes in places they shouldn't be
Volcanoes awaking in areas that haven't seen activity in thousands of years
Mysterious fires and explosions
New disease outbreaks and the return of old ones (bubonic and polio, etc.) for humans and animals
Rapid mass animal die-offs for land animals, birds and the fish in the seas
Huge increase in sightings of exploding and streaking large fireballs
Sinkholes and land cracks

Easy to explain 24hr news & the internet, do you honestly think these things have never happened before
many of the things mentioned above are EXAGGERATED by internet sites and even members on here!!!

Wow, check this story out. Just incredible, and horrifying.

www.theherald.com.au...

Guy cruised the ocean - the Pacific - for 3000 miles. Basically all dead, no birds, no fish. Where'd all the fish go? Obviously dead or eaten. Even if eaten by humans, what happened then? We shat it out into the ocean. And everywhere he found trash. So, all the oxygen-using life gone, piles of trash. What's that sound like? That sounds like a landfill. What problems do landfills experience? Hydrogen sulfide and methane emissions. (In fact, there's a town that's drawn up EVACUATION PLANS because of hydrogen sulfide pluming from a landfill near them.)

And now, multiple reports in multiple cities of 'rotten egg' hydrogen sulfide on or near the coast in California. Well, seeing as California is DOWNWIND of that giant lifeless Pacific Ocean landfill, who could be surprised?

So, 13 years, might be about right, and we're probably at the halfway point now. First, the oceans die hard. Looks like that's ongoing now. The next half will involve more life dying on the Earth's land masses. With the historic first-time-ever shelter-in-place hitting a major metropolitan area this past year because of hydrogen sulfide (coastal Kuwait City), and the multiple detections of hydrogen sulfide in California, looks like that's well under way too.

Might wanna start watching for those 'mystery explosions' that started a coupla years ago. Once those start wiping entire towns out then we'll be about done. Also watch for mass-casualty events. Not just the kids sickening, but once you start seeing large numbers of people just dropping dead, that'll be a big sign. Actually, all the children sickening is already a big sign, but obviously people will wake up a lot faster once the mass sickenings become mass fatalities.

Need to make some clarification adjustments to comments I made in an earlier post. I stated that a village had been overcome with hydrogen sulphide gas, this is incorrect, the village - in fact 2 villages, were overcome by CO2. The villages nestled close to volcanic craters filled with water. The lakes having no 'stirring' process allowed CO2 to build up at its depths, and due to some cause came to the surface, overflowed onto the land and smothered the villages. This has since been fixed, and the toxic gas is now piped off.

The methane threat to man is of course a very real threat, and there are various scenarios to it, but the likelihood of their occurrence is in fact quite small according to current understanding, but certainly not implausible. The gravest threat from methane to man as things currently stand is its potential contribution to global warming.

This current threat echoes what occurred around 55 million years ago in what has come to be termed as the 'Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum' (PETM). There is scientific consensus that methane release through probable tectonic plate shifting played a large part in the global warming of at least 10 degrees F causing the global extinctions to take place at that time. Perhaps it is not too far-fetched to suggest that tectonic plate movement during that period was occurring far faster than it is now? The earth's crustal displacement may well have been more dynamic then, allowing for massive methane release around the planet, but with certain regions providing greater concentrated emissions?

It is this kind of threat that lies at the heart of the global warming debate and urgency.

Methane release in the Northern hemisphere is indeed under way. It is occurring in North-eastern Russia, and the Arctic in huge amounts. How much it will contribute to greenhouse mechanism is not definitively known, but a global temperature increase of just 5 degrees F would prove catastrophic for our fragile societies and their economies. One would assume that a 10 degree F increase would be disastrous indeed.

The stability of our societies is indeed fragile, based as they are on even more fragile economies. We know full well that a sudden shock to them could quite easily take them out, placing man at the mercy of the elements. Millions would be killed world-wide as societies collapsed, but a sudden shock to our societies looks to be the least likely event.

What is more likely, and for many, what is already under way, is the slow inexorable increase in global warming, and with the added ingredient of methane release, a speeding up of the process. So, instead of a sudden shock, we undergo a slow overwhelming bringing with it brief and localised sudden shock events, such as the extreme weather events of Katrina and Sandy. Our societies can respond and repair localised shock events because unaffected parts of society contribute to the repair, but a global event that affects all societies is far harder to recover from.

So we watch, for either the sudden global shock, or we take notice of the slow global overwhelming. Barring all other scenarios for man's potential for extinction, global warming and climate change looks to be the more definite scenario for our existential exit.

elysiumfire
Need to make some clarification adjustments to comments I made in an earlier post. I stated that a village had been overcome with hydrogen sulphide gas, this is incorrect, the village - in fact 2 villages, were overcome by CO2. The villages nestled close to volcanic craters filled with water. The lakes having no 'stirring' process allowed CO2 to build up at its depths, and due to some cause came to the surface, overflowed onto the land and smothered the villages. This has since been fixed, and the toxic gas is now piped off.

The methane threat to man is of course a very real threat, and there are various scenarios to it, but the likelihood of their occurrence is in fact quite small according to current understanding, but certainly not implausible. The gravest threat from methane to man as things currently stand is its potential contribution to global warming.

This current threat echoes what occurred around 55 million years ago in what has come to be termed as the 'Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum' (PETM). There is scientific consensus that methane release through probable tectonic plate shifting played a large part in the global warming of at least 10 degrees F causing the global extinctions to take place at that time. Perhaps it is not too far-fetched to suggest that tectonic plate movement during that period was occurring far faster than it is now? The earth's crustal displacement may well have been more dynamic then, allowing for massive methane release around the planet, but with certain regions providing greater concentrated emissions?

It is this kind of threat that lies at the heart of the global warming debate and urgency.

Methane release in the Northern hemisphere is indeed under way. It is occurring in North-eastern Russia, and the Arctic in huge amounts. How much it will contribute to greenhouse mechanism is not definitively known, but a global temperature increase of just 5 degrees F would prove catastrophic for our fragile societies and their economies. One would assume that a 10 degree F increase would be disastrous indeed.

The stability of our societies is indeed fragile, based as they are on even more fragile economies. We know full well that a sudden shock to them could quite easily take them out, placing man at the mercy of the elements. Millions would be killed world-wide as societies collapsed, but a sudden shock to our societies looks to be the least likely event.

What is more likely, and for many, what is already under way, is the slow inexorable increase in global warming, and with the added ingredient of methane release, a speeding up of the process. So, instead of a sudden shock, we undergo a slow overwhelming bringing with it brief and localised sudden shock events, such as the extreme weather events of Katrina and Sandy. Our societies can respond and repair localised shock events because unaffected parts of society contribute to the repair, but a global event that affects all societies is far harder to recover from.

So we watch, for either the sudden global shock, or we take notice of the slow global overwhelming. Barring all other scenarios for man's potential for extinction, global warming and climate change looks to be the more definite scenario for our existential exit.

Nice post.

I wish more people were talking about the related issue of the ocean dying due to co2 acidification and the resulting plankton death and dropping oxygen levels. GW and oxygen are joined at the hip.

KPB

ElohimJD
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-Added density in interstellar medium...

What... exactly... does this mean?????? lol...

Rezlooper

sealing
That's it ! I'm going to start a committee and
we are going to tax the s*** out of the continent of Antartica.

I'm all for clean air clean water and a clean Earth
but this blaming of humans for CO2 is dwarfed by what natural Methane
releases can do.

Plus if it was precipitated by CO2, that ain't my fault or your fault.
The blame if CO2 has anything to do with this lies with INDUSTRY.

We have had all the time and technology needed to switch to clean energy.
Detroit + The Tesla auto corporation alone,would not only save Detroit
but the USA and the world in tow. Tesla could easily make a car that you plug
into your house it would get you to work and back cost under 20k.
Will they? Hell No! Big oil has a strangle hold on the world.
17 billionaires whose suits smell like airconditioning decided
its more important that their ridiculous lifestyle stay intact.
17 vs 7,000,000,000. Nice huh?
Great thread by the way OP.S&F

edit on 31-10-2013 by sealing because: Thanks

Awesome points Sealing. I agree with you 100%. Never once in my threads do I mention CO2 because I think our real threat is the methane. Something caused methane to start rapidly rising in 2007 and I don't know what that was, but some scientists in a dark lab somewhere probably do and they just aren't telling us about it. The interesting part about this is that when the methane started rising in 2007, it was on a global scale. In the past, the northern hemisphere is where most methane would come from via landfills, cattle, rice fields, etc. and that's cause the northern half of the planet was more industrialized. According to an MIT study, it would take a year for any methane release in the northern hemisphere to balance out with the southern hemisphere, but in 2007, the rapid rising methane levels occurred the same all over the planet.

Levels of methane begin to increase again

One surprising feature of this recent growth is that it occurred almost simultaneously at all measurement locations across the globe. However, the majority of methane emissions are in the Northern Hemisphere, and it takes more than one year for gases to be mixed from the Northern Hemisphere to the Southern Hemisphere. Hence, theoretical analysis of the measurements shows that if an increase in emissions is solely responsible, these emissions must have risen by a similar amount in both hemispheres at the same time.

In the article, the MIT group attempt to explain a few possibilities to why the sudden increase again in 2007, but then discount their own ideas and come up empty. At the end of the article, they state they will follow up, but it never happens. I've done searches and can't find any follow up story to what they may have found. The mystery goes on....

This could explain many prophecies, the sky burning. That is exactly what will happen when levels get saturated and get high enough. Our sky will burn killing everything. Their money won't save them then.

Yes we would have to pay for it but the cost should be minimal once we learn how to capture it efficiently. Take a problem and make it a positive for the world, no Brainerd.

The Bot

I don't know what this massive amount of methane in the atmosphere would do but, I think it might explain why we have all of these animal/fish die offs. My research leads me into the weird and esoteric side of things. For example my comparison of Nostradamus prophesies concerning the "terrifiying globes" mentioned during a time of fish being cast out of the sea.

It almost sounds like an explanation for the recent oarfish beachings we keep having. He also mentions their appearence as being smooth (which they are).

Another such mention of globes or spheres is found in Egar Allen Poe's poem "The Conqueror Worm". He mentions a great cataclism of events associated with their appearance. I wonder if these spheres/globes can be methane vortexes that suck out all O2 in the air and water. Also, could gravity holes /black holes cause them to rise (because I know this gas is heavier than air). Your guess is as good as mine.

One thing that I've noticed lately watching the news, is how common its becoming to see news about school buses or transit buses igniting in flames, such as the one the other day with a bus load of kids on it. The bus was on the side of the road fully engulfed and they said it was full of students who had to make it out of the emergency door. These stories have been on the news quite a bit lately and years ago, I don't recall ever seeing or hearing about a news story with a school bus igniting into flames. Also, it seems that buses are involved in a lot of crashes to.

Here are stories from just this past week involving buses

Three school buses destroyed by fire parked in bus barn

"No one was inside of the facility at the time of the fire," said Lisa Meeks, director of communications for Conroe ISD. "The gates to the facility close at 6 p.m. Arson has been ruled out, but he case of the fire is still under investigation."

The bus in which the fire originated had a history of electrical problems and repairs, according to the Conroe Fire Department.

As recently as Tuesday, that bus was reported to have smoke coming from the dash area. The bus was on track for further evaluation and repair at the time of the fire.

School bus catches fire in Santa Barbara

Witnesses told Noozhawk the blaze appeared to have started in the engine compartment of the bus, and was putting out a large amount of black smoke.

Pitney said the bus had just dropped off its last passengers, and credited the driver with getting the vehicle safely to the side of road.

Passenger bus crash kills 4

Gidado explained that the two vehicles burst into flames as a result of which the four persons were burnt to death.
“We could not ascertain the cause of the accident and the lorry driver was burnt to ashes.

Transit bus slams into cars

The official says a public transportation bus collided with a number of other vehicles at the entrance to a tunnel on a desert highway near the city of Beni Suef, about 95 kilometers (60 miles) south of Cairo. The bus caught fire after the crash.

Fire damages parked, empy metrobus

Investigators are trying to figure out what caused a fire that gutted an off-duty Metrobus along New York Avenue early Monday morning.
Metro spokesman Dan Stessel said the fire started in the “engine compartment of the bus.”

5 killed in bus truck collision

The accident took place in front of Gate No. 4 of National Park at Rajendrapur around 7:45am when a Gazipur-bound bus hit an oncoming truck, reports our Gazipur correspondent quoting the SI.

Students escape burning bus on interstate

A group of high school students from Lexington, Ky. on a field trip to the Smoky Mountains escaped a bus fire Friday afternoon that tied up traffic on Interstate 75 in Campbell County.

A representative of Wombles Transportation says a group of students from Sayre High School in Lexington were returning from a field trip in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park when a passenger noticed smoke coming from the back of the bus.

The driver pulled over and tried to extinguish the fire, but with no luck. Passersby also tried to help.

The students said other drivers were trying to get their attention.

"They were basically just pushing us to slow down. There was one jeep that actually got in front of the bus and started slowing down dramatically and was just pointing at the back of the bus," said student, Chris Muesing.

The Tennessee Highway Patrol reports 33 people were on the bus including the driver. No one was injured. THP says the occupants were able to salvage some luggage before evacuating the bus.

The cause of the fire is still not clear, but bus company officials suspect a bad alternator.

School bus burst into flames in FL

"The fire started in the engine compartment, which quickly filled the bus with smoke," said Battalion Chief Rick Doucett.

Sixty-four children and two adults were on the bus when the fire broke out around 4:25 p.m. in the 1600 block of Southwest 27th Avenue.

Officials said the injuries happened when the students tried to get off the bus quickly, not directly from the fire.

Passenger bus bursts into flames

One fire fighting appliance from Plympton fire station and one fire fighting appliance from Crownhill fire station as well as the water carrier from Plympton fire station attended reports of a large bus on fire on the A38 between Marsh Mills and Deeplane.

Man dies while driving bus, bus crashes

A witness, Louis Holod Jr., who was in his truck at the intersection, said the bus appeared to be unoccupied as it rolled by him, police said. Holod then left his truck and ran after the bus; Holod saw that the driver appeared to be unconscious, lying face down in the stairwell of the bus.

Bus and truck collide in Calgary

Three children are in critical condition after a collision between a school bus and a one-tonne truck north of Calgary. Six other students are in hospital in non-life threatening condition. The female bus driver was also taken to hospital, but there has been no word on her condition. The crash happened just after 8 a.m. MT Friday near Crossfield, Alta., which is about a 40-minute drive northeast of Calgary.

Bus crashes in Nepal

According to a local Lekhnath Poudel, the bus (Lu 1 Kha 3354) veered off some 50 meters from the road

School bus crashes into house after brake failure

Boller said the driver indicated the brakes on the bus had failed.

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Nothing lasts forever you know. Enjoy the ride, for all rides come to an end eventually.

Woops

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I totally agree with you, something is very off with the weather and Earth and it could be this Methane.

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Not discounting your idea whatsoever (in fact I find myself nodding while reading) just saying with the "noticing" of buses, it may just be that you are looking for it.

My bday is 7/27. I notice the time 7:27 at least once or twice every few days. Along with my testing at the water plants I go to the pH of the water is frequently 7.27 the iron has been .727 the manganese have been the same. I also drive right by highway 727.

Not saying it is nothing, but it might just be that you are noticing them because you are noticing them.

to understand whats happening and why, you need to have a view of human activity through time and human interactions, I.E. human invention and its interference in the natural flow of earths habitat.

superman2012
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Not discounting your idea whatsoever (in fact I find myself nodding while reading) just saying with the "noticing" of buses, it may just be that you are looking for it.

My bday is 7/27. I notice the time 7:27 at least once or twice every few days. Along with my testing at the water plants I go to the pH of the water is frequently 7.27 the iron has been .727 the manganese have been the same. I also drive right by highway 727.

Not saying it is nothing, but it might just be that you are noticing them because you are noticing them.

I was looking for bus fires two years ago too. There are way more now. You know who REALLY noticed them? Bus drivers. They were threatening to strike in coastal Perth because so many buses were going up in flames. That could kill them, so that was understandable. Same thing on the island of Malta and many other places. You can read through the monthly fire logs and see the escalation. I'm not looking any harder for bus fires now than I was two years ago either.

This will get more obvious once more children are incinerated. There've been SOME children incinerated in buses already, but apparently, for people to wake up, they need to see a LOT of children being incinerated. Kind of a shame, that, especially for the kids who end up burning to death, and their parents.

superman2012
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Not discounting your idea whatsoever (in fact I find myself nodding while reading) just saying with the "noticing" of buses, it may just be that you are looking for it.

My bday is 7/27. I notice the time 7:27 at least once or twice every few days. Along with my testing at the water plants I go to the pH of the water is frequently 7.27 the iron has been .727 the manganese have been the same. I also drive right by highway 727.

Not saying it is nothing, but it might just be that you are noticing them because you are noticing them.

i get your point...and yes, I am looking for it, but that doesn't make it any less so. I can say that about sinkholes...I am looking for them as well but it doesn't mean they were occurring ten years ago at the frequency they are today when I wasn't looking for them, or were they? Maybe, but I don't think so.

Six more buses have burned in the last two days, incidentally, plus two more started smoking. And two passenger planes have made emergency landings in the last two days too, because of smoke in the cockpit. Working on those updates now. Hard to keep up these days! Two years ago it was much easier, since there just weren't nearly as many semi/bus/boat fires or homes exploding. Oh yeah, several more homes have exploded and burned too, at least four in the last two days. (But maybe more, still going through the data.)

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I agree to what he states but at the same time it pains me that we might have evolved precisely to care and expand our biosphere and instead we no only abuse it every time we can but we manage to actively destroy it, if not us I don't know who should take responsibility...

We lose a lot for each species that dies before we are able to catalog and study it, but especially before we know how to preserve its genetic treasures and bring it back at a future date, we aren't there yet...

I pity those that think about the future of their offspring on this maddening system, let fulfilling life's imperative of survival and genetic immortality...

... maybe the objective is still fulfilled when worms and cockroaches rule the Earth, again...

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you all are smoking some serious stuff out there. I've seen and heard all the doom sayers starting from stuff written over 2 thousand years ago and yet....here we all are...still here. Go relax, have a sandwich, watch an old episode of seifeld or something. Eventually our species will die off but it ain't gonna be tomorrow, and it'll probably be the same way all the rest of them went. Next you'll be writing that the dinosaurs smoked too many cigars and died of fast food consumption...or blow back radiation from their nuke plants. Take a pill.

All this sounds like is the earth doing what it naturally does. It is re-establishing balance and order.