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mash3d
He may have talked to the tower, been cleared to land and told to contact ground control once down. He calls in final and then crashes just before landing. As far as tower is concerned he landed ok.
Imagewerx
Surely it's the sole duty of the tower controller to control traffic on and off the runway,and to ensure the safety of everyone else who uses the runway?
That aircraft isn't out of his control until it's been confirmed that is under someone elses control,especially as it's still moving on an active airfield.
Xterrain
I'd like to know what a flight controller at Pelee was doing when he took off at those hours? Surely it was documented.
Imagewerx
reply to post by ownbestenemy
Ok then,I know that generally here in the UK the tower controllers don't normally have access to or can even see the local radar screens.
That is the job of the approach contollers,normally in another room.So the approach controller would have had an unidentifed object on his screen with no allocated transponder code,am I to assume that in your VERY busy airspace it's normal for this so close to an airport that a controller would ignore an unidentified plane heading towards him? He would only raise the alarm if he was talking to it and it was showing a transponder code and then it disappeared off his screen?
ownbestenemy
Imagewerx
Surely it's the sole duty of the tower controller to control traffic on and off the runway,and to ensure the safety of everyone else who uses the runway?
It is but if the pilot never advised upon initial contact, then ATC was never in control of the situation to begin with. Which it is amounting to. There are a few questions moving forward though given the point of impact as reported and my guess the tapes were pulled to find out these questions:
Was there any MSAW warning; Low Altitude tag would have been applied; (in this case, it might really not have picked up on it though)on their STARS system that went ignored by the controller on-duty?
I am sure NTSB has already pulled the voice data and confirmed that no contact was ever initiated.
That aircraft isn't out of his control until it's been confirmed that is under someone elses control,especially as it's still moving on an active airfield.
It was, apparently, never in control of ATC.