reply to post by darkbake
Thank you for such an in-depth reply. If you're ever in Southern Missouri, look me up. I'll buy you a beer or something and we can chat more. You
really sound like it would be an enjoyable evening to have. (no sarcasm).
Yeah, the state of affairs in the U.S. is bad from what I can tell - no matter what the experts are saying about it. If you look at some
countries in the Middle East, they are seeming positively coherent compared to the current state of affairs in the U.S., that's my opinion.
I think the biggest difference is the most critical one. Even among those nations where the population really has no love for their leadership, and
short of open civil unrest? You don't see Governments working directly against their own people quite like ours has come to do. I sure don't. I also
don't see public in other nations so widely and openly condemning their own ..without doing more
than turning bitter and toxic in private to
stew and fester over it. We seem to have made that a national past time. It's killing us as a nation and culture..one day at a time..and as sure as
I think the situation in the U.S. is extremely bad, but the problem is, it is all potential energy that hasn't been realized - when the energy
is released, it is going to shock the "experts" who haven't been paying attention.
I agree but I wish I didn't. I won't get love for saying this, but the truth hurts and people can deal with how I present what I feel to be true.
Americans are idiots and fools....as a people. American PEOPLE aren't. THE
American 'people' are. So when/if that energy cuts loose? I
don't expect to see Tahrir Square or the Velvet Revolutions following the 'Fall of the Wall' in 89/90. I expect to see a cross between Occupy and
the Rodney King Riots. Mindless violence ..with some sense of purpose ..but nothing remotely close to effective for accomplishing a damn thing.
Let's take the example of free speech. One side (the Democrats, actually) decided that certain speech was not free anymore. That did *not*
cause people to change their minds, I don't see how it possibly could, instead it caused people to take their concerns underground and away from the
mainstream - this is much worse.
This is probably the one spot we don't agree and it's really only in share of blame, not blame to be taken. Democrats and Republicans. Together
forever and ever, amen. Or so it has been on this. Bush gave us the Patriot Act and the Dems applauded too. Quietly, if not publicly, but back then?
Everyone was 'Rah Rah Kick Butt!'.
I think it's been 100% dead even down the center to both sides..with the apparent conflicts we see in the public being great theater to keep us
pissed at each other, over "parties" we don't even know in a real sense anymore, and they laugh at the concept of it, where we THINK it matters.
It may be possible to fix some of these issues, but that is wishful thinking, in my opinion, in fact, I think even with the most positive
attitude we will find our country headed towards societal collapse, this is all opinion based on my wide array of experiences, so I don't have
anything else to back it up at the moment, sorry -
It's possible to fix them. It's absolutely possible to fix this...and you'll have to forgive me here because I have so much happening in my life at
the moment, in so many directions...I shudder to even joke about anything more. Still, this chaotic time will pass soon and I've had a plan in mind
since 2012's election cycle in how I want to present and lay out just what can be done and precisely HOW it can be done. Within the system. Within
Whatever my results on that though...I believe firmly, the greatest victory these men over us have ever had is instilling the belief into all of us
that we are powerless, unable to bring change and the mere attempt is foolish and idiotic. NOTHING could be further from the truth ..but the further
we get, the more true it becomes.